Lore wise, are the Claws of Veeshan evil?

[Tobius]

Awesome replies my dudes.

RoS are obviously actively evil.

CoV, just because they oppose the evil RoS are a weird case. They are actively chill.... but they worship Veeshan who is pretty evil according to "word of god" game manuals and guides etc, there's a reason the other gods are scared of her and oppose her collectively, they aren't just jelly of her stats.

So if Veeshan were to come home and tell CoV to go kill everyone else, I'm sure they totally would... but is that justification for preemptively killing them now? What if it's safe to say we know she won't come back in even these dragons lifetimes... I dunno.

This all stems from a convo where my guildies advised me to kill a key mob in skyshrine for my alt rather than do the quest, but I'm ally with them on my main (who'd do the killing) and I'd feel like a treacherous dick.

I'd probably help the guild kill a big CoV dragon if it had sick loot but betraying a drake bro for nothing seems like a dirtbag move... I'm not a roleplayer but I can't bring myself to kill like coldains or frogloks who other players will kill despite being a paladin or whatever...

[Jimjam]

Mate ithink you can do a quest for the key too?

[knottyb0y]

Originally Posted by MagpieRockyl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore, Cabilis must be destroyed. The Rivervale Vanguard follows Decree IV of Article XIV of the Rivervale Constitution, which is that Rivervale must destroy her enemies both at home and abroad. Therefore, whenever the hobbit Council identifies a foreign threat, the Vanguard is fully sanctioned by Dear Leader Gubbin to dispose of that threat in its own home and to reap whatever platinum gains may be had, to bring the platinum gains back to Rivervale, and to increase the production of Jum.

The most important thing you can do, if you care about GOOD in Norrath, is to ally yourself with Gubbin and help in the conquest of all Norrath. We must unite the world beneath Gubbin. The hobbits will make you free!!

First of all this Halfling propaganda must be stopped! We who dwell in Cabilis thrive under the constant fear of execution and exile from our brethren. Consequence leads to a strong society where the weak are pushed out and the strong rule. Unlike those muffin eating fur foots with their "democratically elected mayor" whom has held his seat of power uncontested for years.

Concerning the Claws of Veeshan. Never forget what the Ring of Scale did to the mighty Sebilisian Empire! Nothing stops the Claws of Veeshan from repeating this tragedy. To have peace we must make war! Every lost life at the hand of the draconic menace can not be forgotten and can not be forgiven. Every time that vile Woushi slays an innocent traveler must be avenged. Yelinak is a liar and even now they prepare to strike at Norrath.

Claws of Veeshan are like cockroaches, it is always ethical to kill a pest. Slay these "isolationists" for the glory of the empire.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tobius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not a roleplayer but I can't bring myself to kill like coldains or frogloks who other players will kill despite being a paladin or whatever...

I'm the same way. As a Shaman it felt like half of the recommended solo spots were killing good guards, but I could never bring myself to attack someone who wasn't attacking me (raid mobs aside). When I finally got to the point where I could kill Grobb guards I pretty much embarked on Troll genocide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mate ithink you can do a quest for the key too?

This. IIRC anyone can do the quest even without help, as long as you're willing to eat a death (just invis to the giant, give him the item, get killed by the giants next to him for breaking invis, go back and get corpse).

[Jimjam]

Woushi being on the ring is great as it encourages giant factions toons to protect wakening lands from veeshan's forces.

[Skinned]

ITT: Palestinians are Frogloks.

[Wonkie]

all who deny bristlebane are my foes

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Similarly, the Frogloks want to take back their ancestral home using violence ... so basically they're like the Palestinian people: does that make them evil?

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[Xanthias]

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Luclin has.. some kind of rationale, but all I remember is VT key PTSD.

Space Cats in search of Nip... and so so so much PTSD...

[Psionide]

Originally Posted by knottyb0y [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First of all this Halfling propaganda must be stopped! We who dwell in Cabilis thrive under the constant fear of execution and exile from our brethren. Consequence leads to a strong society where the weak are pushed out and the strong rule. Unlike those muffin eating fur foots with their "democratically elected mayor" whom has held his seat of power uncontested for years.

I'm glad others are finally starting to see through the halfling propaganda! My own people have had our beautiful Nektulos forest invaded by these Jum addicted imperialists! Gubbin is effectively running a corrupt narco state.