Kaladim Bone Chips + Orc Scalps + Goblin Ears. How far can you get?

[Jaxon]

Your 120 bone chips should get you close to two yellows of experience at that level.

[bricke75]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your 120 bone chips should get you close to two yellows of experience at that level.

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't bone chips and pads/belts stop giving exp at like level 12?

Pretty sure you can't buy 750 stacks and get to level 29.

You are misunderstanding how quest/level xp works; quests give the same xp regardless of level. It is not like mobs where they give 50, 25, 0% of their normal xp as you out level them.

xp required to reach the end of a level is a cube function, so the xp required to level gets much greater with each level. As such a quest doesn't give 'less xp' with each level, it just gives a smaller fraction of the required to level.

The only exception to this is at lower levels, as there is a cap of how much of your level you can get in a single hand in (something like 11%). As such, at low level you may feel you are getting 'full xp' from the quest, as each time you get 11%, but in truth it is only once the xp 'slows down' to less than 11% that you are actually getting the full 7000 xp from your 4 bone chips.

The reason the xp seems to grind to a halt eventually is due to the fact 7000xp becomes a drop in the ocean compared to how much xp is required to complete a level.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't bone chips and pads/belts stop giving exp at like level 12?

Pretty sure you can't buy 750 stacks and get to level 29.

The real thing stopping you from doing this is the logistics of coordinating your bone chips is more work than just killing appropriately levelled monsters for experience.

[beargryllz]

I've done this to about lvl 20 on a human wizard. It's about 34869734x better than leveling a wizard the normal way. I probably used 8-10 stacks of chips, 1-2 stacks each of orc and gnoll scalps that go to Highpass guards, and about 100 goblin ears. Chug a 10pp invis potion to run safely through Highpass. As mentioned, I did actually waste a bunch of mats by using the goblin ears too early, as I was getting the 11% per turn in for most of the turn ins. You can do this more efficiently by waiting a while longer to do the ear turn ins.

I also discovered that one-shotting orc pawns at lvl 8 for their picks is worth way more experience than actually grinding lvl 4-7 mobs in EC. Those 4 picks are worth a shitload of exp even into the mid teens. The lvl 1 orc pawns are literally worth more per kill (kill ones with a pick, duh) than any other mob in the game until you can reliably hold down a dervish camp.

So, cheese or no cheese, twink or no twink, make sure you seek and destroy every pick-wielding orc pawn in Freeport, EC, and WC. Anything else is a relative waste of your time if you're trying to level.

[Legidias]

6k should pay for someone to just PL you to 20 with much less effort

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

6k should pay for someone to just PL you to 20 with much less effort

Yeah, probably takes about 4-5 hours. I offer this service.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are misunderstanding how quest/level xp works; quests give the same xp regardless of level. It is not like mobs where they give 50, 25, 0% of their normal xp as you out level them.

xp required to reach the end of a level is a cube function, so the xp required to level gets much greater with each level. As such a quest doesn't give 'less xp' with each level, it just gives a smaller fraction of the required to level.

The only exception to this is at lower levels, as there is a cap of how much of your level you can get in a single hand in (something like 11%). As such, at low level you may feel you are getting 'full xp' from the quest, as each time you get 11%, but in truth it is only once the xp 'slows down' to less than 11% that you are actually getting the full 7000 xp from your 4 bone chips.

The reason the xp seems to grind to a halt eventually is due to the fact 7000xp becomes a drop in the ocean compared to how much xp is required to complete a level.

Actually, I have found some evidence that at certain levels in classic you would get the 'You Gain Experience!!' message, but actually would not gain any. Furthermore, was found with certain level ranges (i.e. could gain at low levels, but not after a certain ceiling). Some of this is always a grain of salt as it is from either dev comments or posted comments (you can't exactly ask follow up questions to say, "well are you sure it didn't move? did you test 20 more times to ensure the bar didn't move a pixel?".

I posted about this in the Left Goblin Ear thread, Telin had uncovered some other evidence (unsure of his sources) that the exp gain would still occur at lower levels, but I was convinced after reading more than a few posts that there was some kind of level range restriction.

P.S. after next patch the Left Goblin Ears / Orc Scalps / Gnoll Scalps will have significantly less exp gains. Unsure what the actual amounts will be, but if they went off my recommendations Left Goblin Ears will be like 80% less EXP, and Orc / Gnoll Scalps will only give basically a single experience point.

EDIT: Also, I'm compiling a bunch of evidence, but I believe with a high degree of certainty that 11% exp per kill is good, but quest exp should allow 16% gains. (currently not implemented on P99)

[mattydef]

DF belts in Freeport from 2-9 then cb belts/pads from 9-17 would be really fast. You can kill all the orc camps in Sro for df belts and usually fill up all your bags in about 1 hour. Two of those trips should get you 8 or 9. CB belts and pads you can do a combo of buying them for 2-5p each while also slaughtering the TR for them (wont make too many friends with the low levels doing this though). About 3 hours of killing and buying should get you to 17 or so. You'd probably end up only spending maybe 1k or less this route depending on how hands on you are.

[Sillyturtle]

Some great advice in here. I plan on farming a bunch of ears and stuff on my higher monk because I'd really like to see if I can reach 30 just from these turnins. So supplementing the 6k to spend on ears or whatever with farmed stuff will be interesting.

At this point I'm more curious to see how far I can get than actually getting the exp.