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Old 03-15-2011, 12:30 PM
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I disagree with starting points in str being a complete and total waste - unless you're twinked, wearing heavy armor while also scrounging up some loot will absolutely kill you. Sta is just for those who <will> raid and max out the other abilities, if you're not going for that and got to claw your way up, a few points in STR as a DE/Human/Erudite isn't all that bad.

The problem with the SK is that you need so many stats that you'll simply have to prioritise some. AC -> HP -> the rest should be a good guideline, as your spells will always get you the aggro you need to tank. So investing heavily in sta isn't a bad move, especially when you'll be twinked or handed down some basic gear with STR on it.

In this regard, picking a human, ogre or troll is in my opinion the easiest way to go. Spend a few points in dex/agi as an ogre and the rest on sta and you're good to go. As a troll, you can do whatever you want and as a human, you don't suffer the xp penalties and horrible faction that the evil races have while maintaining absolutely mediocre stats that you let do whatever you want.

In the end, ogres and trolls have the superior stats but the combined penalty of race+class might wear you down. I know it nearly killed me on live when I played a troll SK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] playing a human (or dark elf) might make it more bearable. Playing an erudite is classy, but will earn you the achievement of being a glutton for self punishment.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:45 PM
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I only frown upon starting points in strength because not only is it the most common stat on gear but it's also the most readily available stat in the form of buffs.

Druids, shaman, enchanters, bards, heck even clerics have strength buffs. Chances are a Shadowknight is going to have at least one of these classes in his group.

I do see your point, for somebody that's rolling their very first character on the server, but then you are shooting yourself in the foot twice. Once by starting with such a gear dependent class that you can't afford to gear up. And then a second time, a year or 2 down the road where you have all the money you will ever need, gear and buffs that put you well over 200 strength but still have all your starting points in strength...
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:46 PM
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...don't make me laugh. There's really no useful information in there at all aside from starting stats. The suggestions for where to spend points...I can't even form a coherent sentence to describe how much of a failure it is.
Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:10 PM
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I only frown upon starting points in strength because not only is it the most common stat on gear but it's also the most readily available stat in the form of buffs.

Druids, shaman, enchanters, bards, heck even clerics have strength buffs. Chances are a Shadowknight is going to have at least one of these classes in his group.

I do see your point, for somebody that's rolling their very first character on the server, but then you are shooting yourself in the foot twice. Once by starting with such a gear dependent class that you can't afford to gear up. And then a second time, a year or 2 down the road where you have all the money you will ever need, gear and buffs that put you well over 200 strength but still have all your starting points in strength...
I agree with that. Starting a human means you can easily poach in EC. Rolling a troll or ogre means your stats are already topknotch and you're good to go. Give an ogre any kind of magical 2-hander that isn't pure shit and he'll be rocking.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:55 PM
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Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?
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Also, a measly 20 stat points won't make or break your character. An ogre shaman who spends 25 points on charisma and 5 points on dexterity will, with the same gear as one who spent 25 in wisdom and 5 in stamina or vice versa, be able to solo the same mobs.

There's definitely a benefit in having those stats in the best places - but it really won't make a character "suck" to misallocate them.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:09 PM
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If you aren't rolling an Ogre you don't care about stats, so what's the point in worrying about what to put them into? Get your agi to 75 and then pick whatever.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:52 PM
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:15 PM
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Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?
My time has become pretty scarce, so while it's possible for me to answer direct questions having played an SK for 10 years, taking the time to dig through and pull out all the pertinent information to make the SK wiki page more useful just isn't there.
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:19 PM
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Honestly, if you waited this long.. Your better off going iksar and basking in the regen, ac bonus, greenmist options, and excellent newbie / mid level fighting areas.
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