Call to Arms: Project 1999!

[fan D]

an extra 80 rules for raiding


great

[Vheran]

Good sheet

[kjs86z]

Awesome stuff!

Would love to participate in a full server wide open nToV crawl.

[Legidias]

NToV crawl is fun until a dragon pops and other guilds petition serverwide raid force to concede.

[Detoxx]

EDIT* Needed to change:

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After each respawn and earthquake, Aftermath will publish a list of 10 to 12 mobs that we will not contest for 12 hours after the mob spawns. These mobs will include, but are not limited to, City Leaders (King Tormax, Dain and Yelinak), Temple of Veeshan, and others. In addion, Aftermath will not contest anything in Sleepers Tomb, Kunark and Classic alone for 12 hours on every earthquake*.

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Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For each regular cycle of spawns, Aftermath will publish a list of 10 to 12 mobs that we will not contest for 12 hours after the mob spawns. These mobs will include, but are not limited to, City Leaders (King Tormax, Dain and Yelinak), Temple of Veeshan, and others. If there is an Earthquake before the regular spawn cycle happens, Aftermath will not contest anything in Sleepers Tomb, Kunark and Classic for 12 hours, all else remaining from the earthquake FFA.

A list for the actual repop, we feel, is not needed as the mobs are spread out pretty well anyways. Sorry for the confusion.

Also, need to add one more anecdote:

******If any mobs from the list are left up and then an Earthquake happens, despawning them, they will become FFA again.

[Skew]

You could never rotate NTOV as one target as apart from A/A it would take multiple days , probably even having to wait for a weekend for when it was CSGs turn , for every other raiding alliance to clear it. You would spread timers out and eventually lose mobs to repops. In a nutshell it would suck and be unworkable.

C/R/FFA had bag limits and that might be a decent idea , but you will always have the problem of adding new guilds/alliances to the R category and that will lead to the same contempt that BDA showed the rotation.

It wont be popular , but bending the knee and just accepting the No1 raiding guild on the server is going to portion out mobs twice a month is the most efficient and fairest way possible for casual entities to kill dragons. You cant have your cake and eat it.
In this case the GL of the No1 raid guild has to walk the line of keeping his zerg happy and the server - Detoxx is juggling a difficult task and doing a decent job of it.

[aaezil]

maybe its not so much that more casual guilds lack the will or drive or skill to kill the top raid stuff - its more that they are horribly turned off by the toxicity/training/bullying of A/A. Aftermath has a history of trying to coerce anyone competing with them into conceding giving false info or blatantly making up rules. Both guilds have a long history of breaking raid rules repeatedly and consistently.

I think the onus for change is on everyone not just A/A and not just casual guilds.

[Phatez]

Stop responding to Daldaen’s rotation requests. He is trolling you. He is an irrelevant player that no longer is part of this server/community. He is derailing the point of this post which is meant to steer the raid scene in a positive direction and not into some rotation wurmhole discussion.

Don’t feed the troll.

Looking forward to the 300 man NtOv crawl!

[Detoxx]

There will never be another TMO monopolization. TMO had the benefit of:

1. Only 16 Raid Bosses to keep locked down
2. 6 of them were restricted by needing to have a key
3. Locking down said mob to get the key for 2

This is not the way the server is anymore and, even though Aftermath may be able to kill most targets, we will never be able to kill every single mob every single week / repop.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There will never be another TMO monopolization. TMO had the benefit of:

1. Only 16 Raid Bosses to keep locked down
2. 6 of them were restricted by needing to have a key
3. Locking down said mob to get the key for 2

This is not the way the server is anymore and, even though Aftermath may be able to kill most targets, we will never be able to kill every single mob every single week / repop.

It's possible, but you'd have to convince all your enemies/competition to end all competition in one "final solution" a massive zerg guild so large it can poopsock all raid targets at the same time!