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Old 01-28-2018, 07:34 PM
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Ya, procs happen per min (based on dex) no matter the weapon (of the ones I used). The off hand procs EXACTLY 1/2 of the mainhand, no matter.

Still, an awesome weapon and a caster isn't that bad of dps compared to nuking and medding and crazy stats/a proc/ full haste definitely could win out long term dps at 60. Plus you still have that mana sitting there at the beginning/from down time.

Oh ya, I forgot I parsed hours and hours of various dex procs. I'll find the notebook and see if I can find a formula. I was worried it's not linear tho, or maybe not even (negative) exponential (as in reducing in effect from dex over time). I'll have to run it thru some Matlab although I might not have enough data, and I'm worried it's a subset of formula's like most stats here (as in more effect pre 100, someother 100-200, etc) of which I'm not gonna crack it w/o more parsing. If you have any real parses (I was doing only 30+ min single mobs with crap weapons and background healers) I'd take it =)
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Old 01-27-2018, 04:59 PM
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Hmm, afaik tho procs are not affected by haste. Weapon procs are based on dex, and spell proc (like vampiric embrace) are based on the spell. In both cases that generates a "proc per minute" ratio and that's what you get on average no matter if you hit 10 or 50 times in that minute.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:14 PM
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Cheap, droppable, common, undesirable to wear by players, high haste item. Perfect for charmed pets.
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Old 01-27-2018, 07:22 PM
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Haste only affects frequency of swings, not procs, buddy.

You'll proc a smiliar number of times per minute regardless of your haste.

Statistically, a faster attack speed should mean you are less susceptible to periods of good or bad luck where you under or over proc though.
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Old 01-27-2018, 10:26 PM
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Statistically, a faster attack speed should mean you are less susceptible to periods of good or bad luck where you under or over proc though.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:50 AM
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yes, he's not wrong. hastes "stabilizes" luck.
what he said, and i think he's correct, is that it will lower your chances to have good or bad lucks streak. it will obviously not remove them, or change anything % wise. but that impressive 3-procs-in-a-row or that "impressive" 3 mobs in a row without a single proc will hapen less often if you swing 50 times a mob vs 10 times.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:30 AM
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yes, he's not wrong. hastes "stabilizes" luck.
what he said, and i think he's correct, is that it will lower your chances to have good or bad lucks streak. it will obviously not remove them, or change anything % wise. but that impressive 3-procs-in-a-row or that "impressive" 3 mobs in a row without a single proc will hapen less often if you swing 50 times a mob vs 10 times.
I am just giving him a hard time. Jimjam always explains things as complicated as he can and the way he worded this was funny to me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 01-28-2018, 04:33 AM
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yep, don your Tolapumj and you'll get those Kerrans in bed with you at 4 the speed of 3!
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yep, don your Tolapumj and you'll get those Kerrans in bed with you at 4 the speed of 3!
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Old 01-27-2018, 10:33 PM
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To be fair, I’ve had plenty of instances on this server where I have proc’d on 3 swings in a row, albeit very infrequently.
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