52 (epic) Monk with 52k - what to upgrade?

[Spit]

Get a better haste item and farm jail cell in kc for xp and cross fingers for t staff

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi guys, I was hoping to get some advice from you expert monks out there on the best way to spend the extra plat I've got saved up on my 52 monk. He currently has epic, fungi, IFS, sash of the dragonborn, spider fur cloak and pretty standard stuff in the rest of the slots. I solo 90% of the time but don't mind grouping from time to time and was wondering what would get me the most bang for my buck with the extra 50k or so I saved up. The options I am considering are:

1) Tstaff - I have heard the stun proc is great for soloing
2) Haste Upgrade - Either the Seahorse belt for a 10% haste upgrade & stats or a CoCW + spider fur belt (slightly more haste but not as good stats)
3) Haste belt/Hiero Cloak - Get a less expensive haste upgrade like RBG or RBB and then use the extra plat to upgrade to a hiero cloak for a big stats boost
4) Other - is there some better item / combo of items to look to upgrade than the options I came up with?

All advice and feedback is much appreciated, thanks!

52 monk with epic and fungi but still asking retarded questions? smells like are em tee am i rite.

[remen]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

52 monk with epic and fungi but still asking retarded questions? smells like are em tee am i rite.

No you are not right, this is my 2nd character and my twink project, so I am not an expert on this class. To throw around an accusation like that based on nothing is pretty scummy and speaks to your lack of character. Additionally, what is so retarded about my questions? How is a person who has never used a Tstaff able to gauge the impact it has on soloing as compared to a haste upgrade? Considering there were quite a few different answers and lines of thinking it seems like my questions created a decent little debate about the different options I laid out, and hopefully was informative to others in addition to helping me make a decision.

What I am curious about is why the idea of RMT was so close to your mind here and one of the first things YOU thought of? Often times people who are engaged in an illicit activity overestimate the frequency with which others engage in that same activity...just some food for thought.

And to everyone else who took the time and thought to genuinely answer my questions I do appreciate all the feedback and I am going to go with the CoCW + Spider fur belt combo until I can upgrade the CoCW to a CoF with the Tstaff being a nice toy to look to add at some point further down the road when I get some more plat and when it hopefully isn't so overpriced.

Lastly, to the person who suggested tink bags, what makes them so useful? I've done fine staying at about 15 stone just using a large soiled bag and shralok pack, and can't think of any items I would need a tink bag for, 5k seems like an awful lot for a bag, let alone 4 of them. (FWIW my soiled bag has stone of morid and food / bandages while the shralok has my OT hammer and room for random loot that is heavy but worth carrying that i might pick up)

[Jimjam]

You know you can duel wield with 2hb?

Swing primary/2hb. Unequip the 2hb, your offhand can now swing. Instantly re-equip 2hb so it swings again when it's time is due. Repeat until RSI.

Tink bags are great at carrying KC clicky armors (300pp per slot) and fine steel (only 5, but it adds up). Tink bags also decently retain their value.

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lastly, to the person who suggested tink bags, what makes them so useful? I've done fine staying at about 15 stone just using a large soiled bag and shralok pack, and can't think of any items I would need a tink bag for, 5k seems like an awful lot for a bag, let alone 4 of them. (FWIW my soiled bag has stone of morid and food / bandages while the shralok has my OT hammer and room for random loot that is heavy but worth carrying that i might pick up)

TStaff is heavy at 10 wt. You can get by with say 1 - Large Soiled Bag, 2 Tink Bags, 1 Forager Bag, 2 Shraloks.

Tink Bag can hold whatever mats you need, I didn't have much as a 50 monk but by the time I hit 60 I had a bag filled with - Peggy Cloak 5.0 (levi is clutch), Jboots 2.5 (poor man's sow), TStaff 10 (or other 2 hander) which I swapped w/ my 1 Handers 7 wt dragonrib club + 3 weight stave of shielding, Midnight Mallet 11 (useful slow if say soloing in KC where a named could pop), Bracer of Hammerfal 4.1 (replaces need to carry bunch of stacks of ranged weapons), soulfire 5 (complete heal clicks x 5), reaper of the dead - 13 weight (1 charge complete heal), bracer of the hidden 2 (see invis + aggro clicky), slowstone amber 1 (slow/pull/aggro). -- So that super helpful bag can save you 60 weight.

Additionally, I hate going back/forth between town and killing and bandages are really clutch for limiting down time and leveling past 50. One tink bag of bandages saves you 5 weight (which isn't huge) but also means you can effectively bandage up 200 more times without leaving your camp. Even a forager bag saves you 2.5 weight and gives you 10 slots to carry useful items or even collect shit like gems. Once you start to use up your bandages you can replace those slots with stuff you can sell to make back some plat.

Honestly, on my monk from 52-55 I semi broke even depending on what I was doing to level but 55-59 selling fine steel, peridots, occassional decent item, I probably earned enough to at least buy back a tink with the extra bag slots. Again, tinks not priority #1 but i'd say any monk w/ your plat already epiced+fungied should have at least 1.

[remen]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know you can duel wield with 2hb?

Swing primary/2hb. Unequip the 2hb, your offhand can now swing. Instantly re-equip 2hb so it swings again when it's time is due. Repeat until RSI.

Tink bags are great at carrying KC clicky armors (300pp per slot) and fine steel (only 5, but it adds up). Tink bags also decently retain their value.

Yep I know about this trick, great way to get some extra dps!

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TStaff is heavy at 10 wt. You can get by with say 1 - Large Soiled Bag, 2 Tink Bags, 1 Forager Bag, 2 Shraloks.

Tink Bag can hold whatever mats you need, I didn't have much as a 50 monk but by the time I hit 60 I had a bag filled with - Peggy Cloak 5.0 (levi is clutch), Jboots 2.5 (poor man's sow), TStaff 10 (or other 2 hander) which I swapped w/ my 1 Handers 7 wt dragonrib club + 3 weight stave of shielding, Midnight Mallet 11 (useful slow if say soloing in KC where a named could pop), Bracer of Hammerfal 4.1 (replaces need to carry bunch of stacks of ranged weapons), soulfire 5 (complete heal clicks x 5), reaper of the dead - 13 weight (1 charge complete heal), bracer of the hidden 2 (see invis + aggro clicky), slowstone amber 1 (slow/pull/aggro). -- So that super helpful bag can save you 60 weight.

Additionally, I hate going back/forth between town and killing and bandages are really clutch for limiting down time and leveling past 50. One tink bag of bandages saves you 5 weight (which isn't huge) but also means you can effectively bandage up 200 more times without leaving your camp. Even a forager bag saves you 2.5 weight and gives you 10 slots to carry useful items or even collect shit like gems. Once you start to use up your bandages you can replace those slots with stuff you can sell to make back some plat.

Honestly, on my monk from 52-55 I semi broke even depending on what I was doing to level but 55-59 selling fine steel, peridots, occassional decent item, I probably earned enough to at least buy back a tink with the extra bag slots. Again, tinks not priority #1 but i'd say any monk w/ your plat already epiced+fungied should have at least 1.

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem with Sea Horse Hide Belt and Cloak of Crystalline Waters is they do not resell anywhere near as good as a Cloak of Flames, so when its time to 'cash out' you are going to be sitting in EC tunnel a hell of a lot longer. The rich of P99 are going to continue buying CoFs and have little use for CoCW and SHHB.

Tinker Bags are great so you can actually loot things and sell. Once you get into the higher level zones you will start camping areas that have lots of drops and most of them are not conducive to a monks weight limit. If you are soloing I guess this isn't that huge of a concern. Tinker bags also hold their value and are easily re-sellable when you need fast money since its basically a built in plat sink.

You basically don't lose anything buying Tinkerbags, you are just temporarily converting your plat into Bag form... Selling 5k items is much easier than selling 50k items

Gotcha, that makes a lot of sense regarding the Tink bag(s). At this level with my current items I can get by without them but as I get to 55+ I'll plan on making a few bags the first things to get after my haste upgrade.

That's great advice regarding the resale value of the CoF vs. other haste items, you've changed my mind and my new plan is now to grind out another 10k or so and save up for the CoF (PS if anyone is selling one at a good price let me know! ;P )

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you are not right, this is my 2nd character and my twink project, so I am not an expert on this class. To throw around an accusation like that based on nothing is pretty scummy and speaks to your lack of character. Additionally, what is so retarded about my questions? How is a person who has never used a Tstaff able to gauge the impact it has on soloing as compared to a haste upgrade? Considering there were quite a few different answers and lines of thinking it seems like my questions created a decent little debate about the different options I laid out, and hopefully was informative to others in addition to helping me make a decision.

What I am curious about is why the idea of RMT was so close to your mind here and one of the first things YOU thought of? Often times people who are engaged in an illicit activity overestimate the frequency with which others engage in that same activity...just some food for thought.

And to everyone else who took the time and thought to genuinely answer my questions I do appreciate all the feedback and I am going to go with the CoCW + Spider fur belt combo until I can upgrade the CoCW to a CoF with the Tstaff being a nice toy to look to add at some point further down the road when I get some more plat and when it hopefully isn't so overpriced.

Lastly, to the person who suggested tink bags, what makes them so useful? I've done fine staying at about 15 stone just using a large soiled bag and shralok pack, and can't think of any items I would need a tink bag for, 5k seems like an awful lot for a bag, let alone 4 of them. (FWIW my soiled bag has stone of morid and food / bandages while the shralok has my OT hammer and room for random loot that is heavy but worth carrying that i might pick up)

yiKes

[jijii]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yiKes

what's wrong, it wasn't quite enough to take you to completion?

[remen]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yiKes

Thanks for stopping by the thread bud, your posts really added a lot

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You basically don't lose anything buying Tinkerbags, you are just temporarily converting your plat into Bag form... Selling 5k items is much easier than selling 50k items

The other advantage of tink bags is that they are most of the time hidden.

This way, if anyone ever questions your judgement, you can just open a trade window, show the doubter that you carry around half a dozen tink bags at any time, and the question of the soundness of your mind will no longer be in doubt.