Rolling up a bard.. Suggestions?

[redghosthunter]

My point is that STA is hp. And BRDs need CHA for charm. Sorry I could a been more clear. Chic was saying ya need HP on ENC .

[redghosthunter]

ENC Charm aint - based on CHA either. ENC charm on this server was changed. So why dont the Staff- be more clear on what all the hidden shit is. Before people waste there time on a bunch of AH who Fing change shit from what its susposed to be from the original game?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ENC Charm aint - based on CHA either. ENC charm on this server was changed. So why dont the Staff- be more clear on what all the hidden shit is. Before people waste there time on a bunch of AH who Fing change shit from what its susposed to be from the original game?

umadbrew?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is that STA is hp. And BRDs need CHA for charm. Sorry I could a been more clear. Chic was saying ya need HP on ENC .

Every class needs hitpoitns... it's what keeps you alive longer. For classes that are responsible for crowd control, it's a very important stat (so is AC). So we are right back to your previous comment about bards being needed for CC while leveling up.... (and lets not forget pulling for groups too!!!)
All the more reason to have more HP. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ENC Charm aint - based on CHA either. ENC charm on this server was changed. So why dont the Staff- be more clear on what all the hidden shit is. Before people waste there time on a bunch of AH who Fing change shit from what its susposed to be from the original game?

I have no idea what you mean, charisma does effect the duration of enchanter charm and it also effect the chance of mez landing, particularly on mobs in the planes. I get double the resists in the planes when I don't boost my charisma over 200.

Also, you are derailing the thread with all this talk about enchanters.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^
Bards are not enchanters, their mez isn't charisma based.

Also it doesnt matter if he's not getting power-leveled. End game is end game no matter how long it takes you to get there. You put 20 points into charisma and it will be completely useless to you by level 60... hell it will be useless at level 50. Also don't forget that bard charm caps at like level 51 forever!

That's helpful, thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'm definitely re-rolling my 12 bard then /noob

[redghosthunter]

There are plenty of threads on ENC nurfs if ya want a spend the time to find them. ENC CC , First is based on Resistance , then CHA . So ya cant say ENC are based- meaning = the most important, on CHA. This change was put in the game.... a long time ago. Cause ENCs were owning the game.

I agree with Chic, on the STA for ENCs. I was the only one who did. As a ENC ya want a be able to survive after the pet breaks.

[redghosthunter]

Why doesnt Chic, say what BRD charm is based on? I'm sure he really knows... but is not saying.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are plenty of threads on ENC nurfs if ya want a spend the time to find them. ENC CC , First is based on Resistance , then CHA . So ya cant say ENC are based- meaning = the most important, on CHA. This change was put in the game.... a long time ago. Cause ENCs were owning the game.

You are not telling me anything I don't already know. And this thread isn't about enchanters.
You are also mixing up the charm nerfs with enchanter mez. NOT the same thing.

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why doesnt Chic, say what BRD charm is based on? I'm sure he really knows... but is not saying.

It's based on your level, the mobs level and the mobs magic resistance... same as druid and necromancer.

Lastly, bard CC caps in the mid 50's, another reason why in the end game those points in charisma will be a big waste.

PS: This thread isn't about enchanters.

[fugazi]

Sta and perhaps a bit of strength if you wanna be able to carry anything at all while wearing armor. Those 5 points in str over sta won't make you wanna reroll once you hit 60 come kunark, but will make your life getting there all the more easy.

As for gear, I'd say go for HP/AC and if anything, try dex over str whilst using proccing weapons? I find the melee output on my bard to be quite useless. Try getting an ice crystal staff early on, you'll love it.

[nalkin]

Go full stamina at start, get all the +hp items you can. Kite from 5-35 then /q when you realize you gotta group.