Server dying?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course the server is slowly dying. There is absolutely zero chance to see most of the content unless you are in either Aftermath or Awakened, neither are willing to share, and staff seems to be fine with the situation. That means that anyone who are "casual" and want to experience classic raiding either looks to alternatives (Agnarr TAKP) or just slowly stop playing. Alternatively they give up and join A/A, but those guilds are also slowly loosing members because they have achieved it all, and "dominating" for most people stop being fun after 3-4-5 years of the same.
You could argue its natural on a dead end server, but this could easily be solved if staff, or A/A, had any interest - there just doesn't seem to be at the moment. Maybe the future will change things, until then I am sure we will continue to see a slow decline in population, spiking on earthquakes, and some sort of short-lived boost when/if custom content.

Yeah, and it's been "slowly dying" for eight years now, people sure don't like classic EverQuest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you say "chance to see most of the content", you're talking about like one or two zones, and a few mobs in a handful of other zones, right? You really consider that "most of" the literally 100+ zones full of content on P99? Plus I'll never understand why it is such an issue for people to have to join top guilds to see top content. It's like ... imagine if only American and Hawaiian Airlines flew to Hawaii, but you have hella miles with Southwest, so you cry that it's impossible for you to go to Hawaii. Um no, actually it's not, you just have to join the other people who want to go to Hawaii on their airline/guild.

Unless your problem isn't really which airlines are flying, it's the fact that you can't afford a ticket (ie. you're too casual) ... in which case you're basically arguing that because you can't afford a ticket to Hawaii, no one else should get to go to there (well, unless airlines start giving everyone free tickets). And you're also arguing that because you can't afford a ticket to Hawaii, that means the whole airline system/game is broken and it's impossible for you to take a vacation (never mind the fact that you can still afford to fly to California, Florida, New York, etc. ... ie. you can still have fun in the 95-odd other zones in the game).

[Xanaxx]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, and it's been "slowly dying" for eight years now, people sure don't like classic EverQuest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you say "chance to see most of the content", you're talking about like one or two zones, and a few mobs in a handful of other zones, right? You really consider that "most of" the literally 100+ zones full of content on P99? Plus I'll never understand why it is such an issue for people to have to join top guilds to see top content. It's like ... imagine if only American and Hawaiian Airlines flew to Hawaii, but you have hella miles with Southwest, so you cry that it's impossible for you to go to Hawaii. Um no, actually it's not, you just have to join the other people who want to go to Hawaii on their airline/guild.

Unless your problem isn't really which airlines are flying, it's the fact that you can't afford a ticket (ie. you're too casual) ... in which case you're basically arguing that because you can't afford a ticket to Hawaii, no one else should get to go to there (well, unless airlines start giving everyone free tickets). And you're also arguing that because you can't afford a ticket to Hawaii, that means the whole airline system/game is broken and it's impossible for you to take a vacation (never mind the fact that you can still afford to fly to California, Florida, New York, etc. ... ie. you can still have fun in the 95-odd other zones in the game).

Dude, you just perfectly described the liberal agenda in the United States. /victim

[Xanaxx]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course the server is slowly dying. There is absolutely zero chance to see most of the content unless you are in either Aftermath or Awakened, neither are willing to share, and staff seems to be fine with the situation. That means that anyone who are "casual" and want to experience classic raiding either looks to alternatives (Agnarr TAKP) or just slowly stop playing. Alternatively they give up and join A/A, but those guilds are also slowly loosing members because they have achieved it all, and "dominating" for most people stop being fun after 3-4-5 years of the same.
You could argue its natural on a dead end server, but this could easily be solved if staff, or A/A, had any interest - there just doesn't seem to be at the moment. Maybe the future will change things, until then I am sure we will continue to see a slow decline in population, spiking on earthquakes, and some sort of short-lived boost when/if custom content.

Are you shitting me? Do you know how many times and for how long dragons are in in ToV all fucking day that CSG could go get? Once again nobody is stopping you guys from killing anything. Even in the FTE running days, there would be 15 people on the line, 6 dragons in window and NOT 1 CSG running. Yet on the forums, it was whine whine whine or /petition /petition /petition. WTF dude. Take some responsibility

[raato]

Originally Posted by Xanaxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you shitting me? Do you know how many times and for how long dragons are in in ToV all fucking day that CSG could go get? Once again nobody is stopping you guys from killing anything. Even in the FTE running days, there would be 15 people on the line, 6 dragons in window and NOT 1 CSG running. Yet on the forums, it was whine whine whine or /petition /petition /petition. WTF dude. Take some responsibility

Maybe CSG doesn't bother checking/batphoning ToV since they know that A/A alliance skypechannel named "Fuck Casuals" will fire up their batphones to block CSG from the content when CSG fires their batphones, because manchilds in those guilds have moles in CSG. So it is not worth the effort to waste time gathering up in ToV, when most of the time it ends up being trained or otherwise rules being abused by A/A to get what they want (block others from content).

Also those who were footracing in CSG kinda stopped after they figured out that most of the FTE footraces were won by known cheaters. It's kinda pointless to stand at the line without chance to win if you refuse to use cheats, don't you think?

And afaik CSG never has petitioned anyone on footracing. And if I'm counting correct there has been 1 Aftermath and 0 Awakened 10d suspensions because CSG petitioned it, and I'm still kinda unsure about that AM ban if that even was petitioned by CSG since nobody from CSG leadership knows about who did it. I know right?

I guess the main point is that the end game is very unenjoyable for people who respect rules and other people. That is why some people won't fly to Hawaii even when they could afford it, because the plane is full of people who rather shit on the whole flight industry making also all other flights unenjoyable for majority and it is piloted by inconsistent pilot that is afraid to kick the bullies out from the plane.

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe CSG doesn't bother checking/batphoning ToV since they know that A/A alliance skypechannel named "Fuck Casuals" will fire up their batphones to block CSG from the content when CSG fires their batphones, because manchilds in those guilds have moles in CSG. So it is not worth the effort to waste time gathering up in ToV, when most of the time it ends up being trained or otherwise rules being abused by A/A to get what they want (block others from content).

Also those who were footracing in CSG kinda stopped after they figured out that most of the FTE footraces were won by known cheaters. It's kinda pointless to stand at the line without chance to win if you refuse to use cheats, don't you think?

And afaik CSG never has petitioned anyone on footracing. And if I'm counting correct there has been 1 Aftermath and 0 Awakened 10d suspensions because CSG petitioned it, and I'm still kinda unsure about that AM ban if that even was petitioned by CSG since nobody from CSG leadership knows about who did it. I know right?

I guess the main point is that the end game is very unenjoyable for people who respect rules and other people. That is why some people won't fly to Hawaii even when they could afford it, because the plane is full of people who rather shit on the whole flight industry making also all other flights unenjoyable for majority and it is piloted by inconsistent pilot that is afraid to kick the bullies out from the plane.

Are you from the generation where no kid gets left behind and everyone gets a trophy?

[raato]

Originally Posted by Qtip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you from the generation where no kid gets left behind and everyone gets a trophy?

Nah, I was just raised to respect others. The things I was talking about has nothing to do with rewarding everyone equally.

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also those who were footracing in CSG kinda stopped after they figured out that most of the FTE footraces were won by known cheaters. It's kinda pointless to stand at the line without chance to win if you refuse to use cheats, don't you think?

Being banned 10 days for cheating was a blessing in disguise. They lost a mob cycle but after that nobody wanted to race against them because it was confirmed they had been cheating and our time is valuable to us.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if I'm counting correct there has been 1 Aftermath and 0 Awakened 10d suspensions because CSG petitioned it...

Since CSG is the moral compass to which all others must measure up to, does this make Aftermath the server bad guys now?

We had a nice thread about the server dying, and you guys turn this into an epeen morality contest as usual.

Stop pretending to be such perfect p99ers, this song and dance gets old. The only CSG that can say they are wonderful near perfect p99ers is Omni. I feel bad they are even part of CSG to be honest, the way some of Europa and AG behave at times.

[raato]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since CSG is the moral compass to which all others must measure up to, does this make Aftermath the server bad guys now?

We had a nice thread about the server dying, and you guys turn this into an epeen morality contest as usual.

Stop pretending to be such perfect p99ers, this song and dance gets old. The only CSG that can say they are wonderful near perfect p99ers is Omni. I feel bad they are even part of CSG to be honest, the way some of Europa and AG behave at times.

I'm not saying we are perfect p99ers, everyone plays this game differently. Some do 1-54 over and over again and some do raid content, high or low end, competitive or not. All CSG has ever wanted is to have server that fits for everyone, no matter how they want to play.

I honestly don't know which Europa member has done something so bad to you that you still carry grudge on it, but I can ensure that every Europa member that behaves badly will get disciplined accordingly (warning, guildkick etc).

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess the main point is that the end game is very unenjoyable for people who respect rules and other people. That is why some people won't fly to Hawaii even when they could afford it, because the plane is full of people who rather shit on the whole flight industry making also all other flights unenjoyable for majority and it is piloted by inconsistent pilot that is afraid to kick the bullies out from the plane.

I am in Awakened and I respect the rules and other people.

Raiding in P99 is is incredibly competitive and it takes a ton of resources, especially time and energy. Not everyone is willing to leave dinner a little early to kill a mob, or stay up a little later to help recover your pull team after losing a mob to your competition. Even in Awakened some players really love to clear Plane of Growth for 12 hours for a chance at bad loot, others don't think it's worth it.

I respect anyone who refuses to play the game in a way that is not fun for them. However, I don't think the 'flight' analogy makes much sense and I don't know why if you're unhappy with your current situation you think bashing the staff or more competitive guilds on the forums will help.