Please Change the Two Boxing Rule - Page 2

Zadrian · #1 02-20-2011, 03:59 PM

While you attempt to make a logical reason, I have to disagree.
There are many other aspects to the game other than just sitting LFG. You can tradeskill, do a quest, work some faction while waiting. Also, why "sit" LFG, you can be a bit more pro-active and approach groups that you are interested in joining. The only time I EVER had an issue finding a group was when I just sat LFG. When I approach groups and tell them that I am interested in taking a spot in line, I get a tell within the hour.

The second reason that it could be difficult for you to find a group is because the server's population is fairly high for the content, therefore a lot of the popular exp zones are filled up. Once kunark is released, within a month, there will be more exp zones, more players and more groups.

Finally, the last thing you can do to find a group is form a group of your own and venture into Kedge. Kedge is usually a fairly empty place, therefore a great area to level in.

I feel that an argument of "I can't get groups" is fairly weak for justifying 2-boxing. If I can find groups as a ranger, "allegedly the most hated class in EQ before Luclin," then anyone else can.

Uterus · #2 02-20-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zadrian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While you attempt to make a logical reason, I have to disagree.
There are many other aspects to the game other than just sitting LFG. You can tradeskill, do a quest, work some faction while waiting. Also, why "sit" LFG, you can be a bit more pro-active and approach groups that you are interested in joining. The only time I EVER had an issue finding a group was when I just sat LFG. When I approach groups and tell them that I am interested in taking a spot in line, I get a tell within the hour.

THIS.

If all you want to do is exp and group, you're a cretin. Go find something else to do, there is plenty.

Alkorin · #3 02-20-2011, 04:16 PM

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I am no longer willing or able to spend my time, especially my mornings, sitting around looking for a group to play with, and when that group is eventually found, not being able to get anything else in real life done. Being able to two box is a solution to this problem.

This, among other things in your post, was what struck me as quoteworthy. This is a game -- if you don't have the time to play, that's how it works. You don't have the time.

If you need to get RL things done, why are you online in the first place? And, if I might add -- if you are too busy to play a single character properly, how does the ability to play two or more make things easier on you and give you -more- time to do things away from the keyboard(s)? Surely you would be just as AFK as a single member of a group, only the rest of your group could function without you while you were momentarily AFK?

Sorry, your logic seems flawed to me. I'm happy that people aren't supposed to be boxing -- though we all know that people do it, and I hope that they get caught.

Pescador · #4 02-20-2011, 04:24 PM

The main arguments against 2boxing are that it will prevent people from grouping, it will exacerbate camping problems, and it will reduce the community / player interaction.

Your arguments in favor of 2boxing are that it will allow you to not group, will allow you to solo stuff you normally wouldn't be able to, and will keep you from having to interact with other players to advance...

Your reasons for supporting 2boxing are the exact same reasons it isn't allowed in the first place.

Hoggen · #5 02-20-2011, 04:31 PM

Number one reason there is no need, nor should there be a desire, for two-boxing on P1999: there are plenty of other free servers where you can do it. Go find somewhere else to play.

MaSQue · #6 02-20-2011, 05:48 PM

jesus why would they even think of letting players box? jesus go to another server if you wanna box, let this one stay classic and PURE.

Dac321 · #7 02-21-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main arguments against 2boxing are that it will prevent people from grouping, it will exacerbate camping problems, and it will reduce the community / player interaction.

Your arguments in favor of 2boxing are that it will allow you to not group, will allow you to solo stuff you normally wouldn't be able to, and will keep you from having to interact with other players to advance...

Your reasons for supporting 2boxing are the exact same reasons it isn't allowed in the first place.

this

Lazortag · #8 02-20-2011, 04:29 PM

The reason why two-boxing never affected anyone back in the day is because not everyone could do it, since they'd have to pay twice the subscription fees. This isn't true on p99.

What I've seen on other servers is that two-boxing essentially forces everyone else to do it too to maintain the same advantage or to be able to get anything done (as groups are consistently filled by multi-boxers). I think that's an unreasonable entry cost for people like me who just generally dislike engaging in two-boxing for ourselves.

Lastly, has anyone considered what multiboxing would do to raiding?? Holy shit would that be ridiculous. There'd be no entry cost at all for being a small guild since you could just multibox a raid force without actually having the members to support it. Also, at later hours where european guilds have the most chance to get any access to content, other guilds could cockblock them by just having a few members on who can multibox. One of the ways one guild gets a competitive advantage over others is with numbers - ie, by having more numbers and by hoping the other guild has less so that they can't clear efficiently or camp bosses legally (since you need 15). This is eliminated if people can just two-box.

Randy · #9 02-20-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason why two-boxing never affected anyone back in the day is because not everyone could do it, since they'd have to pay twice the subscription fees. This isn't true on p99.

Don't forget CPU power as well. I doubt anyone is still running a computer that couldn't 2-box right now. Anyhow, the OPs argument is weak at best. The rule is there to stay for good reason.

As pointed out, there are plenty of solid other servers that allow 2-boxing. They're just not classic like this one.

Gorgetrapper · #10 02-20-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason why two-boxing never affected anyone back in the day is because not everyone could do it, since they'd have to pay twice the subscription fees. This isn't true on p99.

How much did computers cost back then? Over a thousand if I remember correctly. Most of us (if you played back then) were probably between the ages of 14 and 25 and a computer was probably one of the last things to get. Now you can get premade computers that can cost you like $400 and still run alright.