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Old 07-16-2017, 10:12 PM
fadetree fadetree is offline
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The amount of swings, riposte or otherwise, do not affect the proc rate. It's based on time duration, and the rate or amount of swings do not matter.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:30 PM
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lots of random opinions in this thread and no proof of anything given yet...
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:54 AM
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Off hand proc on delay elapsing even when no swing produce is well documented.

Here are a few excerpts from a low level warrior off handing a polished granite tomahawk.

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:13 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:15 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 30 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your will is not sufficient to command this weapon.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 3 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to kick YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Auto attack is on.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] You crush a deepwater crocodile for 28 points of damage.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to bite YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!

[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You are unstunned.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] A caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You kick a caiman for 1 point of damage.7

And just to show it still works after the most recent patch:

[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 32 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You try to crush a forest giant evergreen, but miss!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] Kynzo strikes a forest giant evergreen for 6 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:36 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 29 points of damage.


I'll try capture a double proc on double attack too now, but I haven't had any luck yet.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hackattack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You cannot proc from a riposte, but you can from a double attack.
But does the PPM formula consider your double attack (and dual wield?)?

If 255 dex is 2.0 procs per minute... a chanter swinging his OT hammer will proc it twice per minute on average, regardless of his haste level.

But does a warrior with the same 255 dex proc more times per minute on average due to double attack? Or does each individual swing from the warrior, at a given haste level, have a lower proc chance such that his PPM remains 2.0 even though he has between 0 and X extra attacks per minute due to double attack firing off?
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:51 PM
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You cannot proc from a riposte, but you can from a double attack.
NPCs proc on riposte all the time.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:10 PM
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NPCs proc on riposte all the time.
Npcs can proc on riposte but not players. Fact.
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