Need before greed in pickup groups?

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by xshayla701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about BnB when GCB drops... WRU ESTU???? <3

I had the same problem with Ridez. I rolled a 98, he rolled a 71, he said he was just keeping it because it should be a NBG group. He then leaves the zone and then /laughs at me. There was also a necro in the group with poor gear; Rides never asked the necro if he wanted to roll against him for the bracer. I talked to an officer from VD and apparently their creed on their website means jack and shit; nothing was done.

In essence: don't group with Ridez if you want an item that he can wear.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only camps I could see this being an issue at would be something that dropped a high $$ item such as frenzy, lord, or efreeti where items are all worth 5k+. In this case it should probably be discussed beforehand on how it will be handled.

I'm pro nbg because I don't give a shit about a 300plat RMB, and you shouldn't either or you're just an asshole imo.

I don't think a higher value item necessitates NbG. The question of whether one person gets more utility out of receiving an FBSS from camping (say, a rogue/monk/warrior), than a caster would out of selling it and buying an equivalent is actually really subjective.

Because we don't know what the warrior/rogue/monk does, we don't know if they would use the money more effectively. If they used it the rest of their career - great. But the rogue eventually gets his epic - and the FBSS is then sold and use to pad their bank account.

My opinion of the best loot system (for most cases) is everyone may roll on everything, but rules dictate how much loot someone can get - i.e. you roll on FBSS and win, you can't roll on Yak if it drops later.

Usually it's not that sophisticated, though, and I don't group now as much as I did on live, so...

[azeth]

take the fungi king camp for example, pretty ridiculous to call NBG considering everyone's there for the same reason..

that being said, take Juggs for example - if I'm in a group where Sebilite Croaking Dirk drops and a caster rolls on it, well you can bet your ass I'm randoming on all your high level spells and will gladly sell them to you.

[Froglok]

And then they made World of Warcraft to fix these problems...

[karsten]

i am very rarely in a group that isnt nbg, and if I am, it is very clearly communicated as such beforehand. I would flip my shit if a necro rolled on a fungi over me, and just as has been mentioned, would be equally silly to roll on rare jug spells if there are casters in the group that need them

wtf is wrong with you people, i thought we were friends here?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am very rarely in a group that isnt nbg, and if I am, it is very clearly communicated as such beforehand. I would flip my shit if a necro rolled on a fungi over me, and just as has been mentioned, would be equally silly to roll on rare jug spells if there are casters in the group that need them

wtf is wrong with you people, i thought we were friends here?

See I actually think the Fungi Tunic is a good example of something that has an NBG feel to it given how powerful it is on an appropriate melee class however its Platinum value is so great that I can't blame people for going greed on it.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See I actually think the Fungi Tunic is a good example of something that has an NBG feel to it given how powerful it is on an appropriate melee class however its Platinum value is so great that I can't blame people for going greed on it.

Yeah - I tend to feel that only best-in-game items are 100% NBG items. Everything else is negotiable, since the plat value of the item might be worth even more to the other player in buyable gear.

I dunno about Fungi. Fungi was so friggin game breaking for so many (it literally revolutionized my monk's ability to solo and a shaman friend of mine was like a mana battery with it). It's one of those items that simply didn't have any peers.

[karsten]

thats why i plan on holding down the fungi camp with 5 other paladins


although, that would probably create a level of awesomeness so great that the server wouldnt be able to handle it

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am very rarely in a group that isnt nbg, and if I am, it is very clearly communicated as such beforehand. I would flip my shit if a necro rolled on a fungi over me, and just as has been mentioned, would be equally silly to roll on rare jug spells if there are casters in the group that need them

wtf is wrong with you people, i thought we were friends here?

It really depends.. If I'm i'n a grip for fungi and everyone is forcing the greed roll and my pal karsten needs the tunic I'll suggest the we give it to him.. And if they force the greed roll I would roll and if I won over karsten I would give it to my pal karsten because I know he needs it and will use it and not just sell it..

Fungi is an intense camp that requires solid raid level skill of the ench and cleric.. Coupled with solid dps... I understand the greed roll i'n a pickup grp...

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Froglok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then they made World of Warcraft to dumb-down MMO players...

ftfy