Paineel

[Siberious]

Paineel Guards are the only mobs I know of that don't give negative faction hits in the zone. Majority of mobs in Paineel are on heretic and some also are on other factions as well (see more then negative heretics when I accidentally killed a non-guard), was able to faction in Warren's on my monk and travel anywhere I tried (Minus maybe some class guilds that I have no reason to enter). The guards themselves can vastly differ in level from mob to mob, though generally when they spawn in pairs they are the same level.

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by MikeXG [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea - Odus is an area I just have never used beyond going to Erudin for the occasional spell purchase or port to tox and boat to qeynos.

I am leveling in the warrens and the xp is decent. So I figure if I get the faction I need before I out level /get sick of the warrens Ill get the key. It is news to me that the faction does not take a hit, so that is a huge Plus. Is all of Paineel the same faction (heretic) or are their other factions (IE qeynos guards and qeynos merchants).

Hypothetically, could someone hunt here from 20-40? despite how much they grow to hate themselves?

Everything is the same faction, and you can exp there from 20 to 60 if you really want to hate yourself.

[Shodo]

Originally Posted by MikeXG [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hypothetically, could someone hunt here from 20-40? despite how much they grow to hate themselves?

Hypothetically yes, but it would almost certainly become eye-bleedingly boring. You can XP in the warrens until low twenties ish, after that the only option for a while is Stonebrunt (probably a few guards in Paineel for the inbetween levels too but i'm not sure). There's a wide variety of mob levels there that can take you to 40 or so, maybe a little higher. After that you could XP in the Hole to 60 but for a ranger you'd at least want a duo partner unless you have some nice gear by then.

[MikeXG]

IM DUBIOUS!!!

well on my way haha.

I'll keep working at it because I am curious about trying it out and it is something new/to do. I am curious in going to stonebrunt also - any suggestions on how to tackle that zone (level 19 almost 20 now)

[Shodo]

Originally Posted by MikeXG [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IM DUBIOUS!!!

well on my way haha.

I'll keep working at it because I am curious about trying it out and it is something new/to do. I am curious in going to stonebrunt also - any suggestions on how to tackle that zone (level 19 almost 20 now)

The kobold camps right next to zoneline are around level 20ish but would be a pain to break for you without harmony. I would just track dark blues and pull to any zone wall until 22, then tackle the camps. Stick near zoneline area in case of trouble.

Around 25ish look up the heretic heads and wakizashi of the frozen skies quests for extra stuff to do.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

News to me, I rarely kill guards. I stick with my assessment that this is a waste of time even if he keeps the faction he's earned. Its going to take a level 18 ranger forever to kill enough kobolds to buy that key.

Not really accurate, a bit hyperbolic in fact.

I have gotten my faction for Paineel via Warrens and it only took a decent session in one day's time.

Also, often you can find some higher lvls grinding faction in Warrens, if that's happening you can really work faction fast there by simply hitting their mobs they kill, or buffing/healing the player killing the kobolds...

I kind of enjoy working factions for cities you are not native in, just for the sake of being able to walk around a place that once despised and would KOS you.

[tristantio]

Pros:

- The xp isn't noticeably slower than anywhere else you'd Xp.
- Leveling from ~18 to 40 there (solo), you'll end up with 10k+ easily (its pretty nice)
- Outdoors
- Can be bound there
- No random agros (mobs are easily timeable, great place to kill a guard, afk and repeat over and over)

Cons:

- Takes about a night or two to grind faction to get in
- Have to share spawns more often now that warrens exist (used to be a great spot for evil erudites to level in privacy, or skelly form necs)
- Very boring, but you're probably watching TV while you do this, so who cares

I've leveled a lot of guys up in there (3 of them 45+ pre-warrens where I almost always had exclusive zone to me, 2 post-warrens), its pretty great.