monk + fungi tunic

[Zarcath]

You guys are out of your damn mind.

If you're not taking damage regen means shit. 15 every 6 seconds at 100% hp isn't doing shit. I'd rather have the minor damage increase (and stam/raw HP) during a fight. I'm going to be taking burst damage not tickled to death. AGAIN - in a GROUP where i'm not taking damage, mobs are alive in camp for 1? 2? minutes? that's only 20 ticks. 300hp. is that really significant?

I'd rather have the minor combat increase and just use Mend, or spell Regen, or the healer can just heal me every couple of pulls. Fungi 24/7 is lazy.

[Razaz]

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we consider damage recovered by regen as damage mitigation,

I'd argue that this is flat out wrong to begin with. Mitigation is about reducing the damage you take to begin with (AC & Resists), not how efficiently you can recover the damage (Regen/Heals).

If you are taking damage where passive regen and mend can easily cover the damage taken, you are gaining no use from the fungi. It could be more beneficial, however minor, to switch to a chest piece with combat stats to increase DPS and minimize the damage output on the tank. Or as Zarcath said,

Originally Posted by Zarcath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are out of your damn mind.

If you're not taking damage regen means shit.

A shaman is always loosing HP for canni so it makes much more sense for them to wear it 24/7. I'd say just not to be lazy and read the situation. If you are solo/duo/tanking, the regen is probably going to be better. If you are just pulling and dpsing without taking much damage, switch to something with real stats.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Zarcath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are out of your damn mind.

Right ... because everyone else being out of their damn minds is a lot more likely than you being our of yours.

100 raw hp, 30 extra AC, 15 to all resists and 15 to all stats would still be functionally inferior in classic EQ to +15hp/tick continuous regen. Stats really don't mean all that much - and by the time that fungi "isn't worth it" you'll buff out to 255 strength. Extra hp? Meaningless if you're "always full health". If you're not always full health, regen wins short and long haul.

/boggle

[Troxx]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Lost_Circle

Vs

http://wiki.project1999.com/Fungus_Covered_Scale_Tunic

3 str, 15 dex, 5 stamina, 50hp, 15 agi

Vs

6 more AC, 15 hp/tick regen

Not even close

[Doctor Jeff]

should be noted that you have max melee stats buffed at just 120 str/dex

[Lowako]

Originally Posted by Razaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd argue that this is flat out wrong to begin with. Mitigation is about reducing the damage you take to begin with (AC & Resists), not how efficiently you can recover the damage (Regen/Heals).

If you are taking damage where passive regen and mend can easily cover the damage taken, you are gaining no use from the fungi. It could be more beneficial, however minor, to switch to a chest piece with combat stats to increase DPS and minimize the damage output on the tank. Or as Zarcath said,



A shaman is always loosing HP for canni so it makes much more sense for them to wear it 24/7. I'd say just not to be lazy and read the situation. If you are solo/duo/tanking, the regen is probably going to be better. If you are just pulling and dpsing without taking much damage, switch to something with real stats.

Mitigation isn't the correct term, I agree with that. But the reason I used that term is because having that regen reduces the amount that your healer needs to heal you. Obviously the regen doesn't do anything for you when you are full HP, in which case its better to wear something with better stats. But its very rare that you're in a position where you aren't going to get hit on a monk.

You could argue that because you don't get hit very much when pulling you can let innate regen+mend do the work, but personally I think that using mend to heal damage from stray hits is a bit of a gamble. I don't know about other monks, but when I play a monk I like to save mend for "oh shit" situations - essentially when I fuck up pulling or get a failed FD.

[Cecily]

Naw. It's mitigation over time. Fungi + regen mitigates AEs fantastically, so yeah it's rogue BIS too.

[Cwall 146.0]

wearing something other than fungi for "dps" or "combat stats" is a moot point when both strength and dexterity, the only two stats that can be attributed to some sort of damage increase, are both incredibly easy to max with buffs

regardless, the optimal scenario as i mentioned is:

using a robe of the azure sky for situations where resists/hp will outweigh the hp regen, aka very short time pulls and dragon aoe fights where you don't have 255 of the relevant resist(s) for whatever reason

or

using a fungi tunic

o well good thing my monk has a shroud of longevity

[Freakish]

I have a bp off ikitair. 46ac, 50hp. Stats of some kind who cares. Fungi is still better due to the constant healing in nearly every situation.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

should be noted that you have max melee stats buffed at just 120 str/dex

This hits the nail on the head. It is insanely easy to cap melee stats in this game with buffs. Therefore, when duoing/grouping/raiding I wear the fungi pretty much 24/7. Because that regen, I've yet to cap it.