100-150k Christmas Giveaway/Contest on Thursday, December 22nd @ 7 PM CST

[Sorn]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When such an event is portrayed as some awesome good will event, yet requires people who participate to also use a live stream site I can't help but become suspicious of it.

Yeah, this has more to do with twitch than anything else. Just the way it's set up. It DOES filter out troll accounts somewhat. You're able to moderate your twitch channel in case someone shows up screaming abuse as a form of opportunistic sociopathy.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Sorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, this has more to do with twitch than anything else. Just the way it's set up. It DOES filter out troll accounts somewhat. You're able to moderate your twitch channel in case someone shows up screaming abuse as a form of opportunistic sociopathy.

Thanks for clarifying it Sorn. I still won't be using Twitch. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tupakk]

Why not use stream to spread the word even further. In this day and age people want to see more, react more and feel involved in something. Thus Twitch was born. If you think he is using it to further his own stream well that is just silly.

We will use all available resources in order to inform people. Forums, FB, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, CarrierPigeon, In Game, EC Tunnels, and everything else in between.

Nobody in the Dept of Fun is in this for anything but Fun!!

So HAVE FUN and Show up on the 22nd and GL with the raffle!!

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not use stream to spread the word even further.

I see, so forgive my ignorance here, I don't use Twitch. How does Twitch spread the word of this event exactly? I am just trying to understand how people who don't log in, don't play the game will run across this stream. Are live streams of P99 really that popular?

Are you saying that someone could possibly happen upon this live stream on Twitch then feel compelled to get a copy of Titanium EQ, install it according to P99 instructions and play just from seeing such an event?

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this day and age people want to see more, react more and feel involved in something. Thus Twitch was born. If you think he is using it to further his own stream well that is just silly.

Ok, again who is seeing it and being part of this event other than the players on the server?

How does Twitch make people feel more a part of the event, than actually being involved in the event?

I don't know if it's even possible to "further" one's own stream because I don't use it and I am not familiar with how or if it generates revenue or helps the streamer personally.

[redhorse]

It's obviously as much a promotion for his twitch stream as it is a giveaway. Still cool to get a chance at free stuff, but, it's not purely altruistic. There is self interest at work as well. Self interest veiled as charity is often very problematic in the real world. Seems ok in this instance though. Dude wants some twitch followers for fun times and a hobby. Helping him him out small price to pay for this raffle! ��

[Splade]

I really think this twitch subscriber begging should go under RMT.
Hey, come sub to my stream and possibly get free shit in game.
RMT...

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Splade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trading goods and/or services outside the game for benefits inside the game is rmt.

Clicking follow on a Twitch channel ≠ goods and/or services, nor is soliciting followers from P99 a way to generate income. It will never lead to direct income of any kind. It will never somehow indirectly translate to income of any kind. It will never pave the way to set up a stream of revenue of any kind. Do people do these things with Twitch? Yes, of course they do - these people have hundreds of thousands of regular viewers. Can Speedi accept donations from people? Of course he can. That is not RMT. It's so insane that you have to point out that charity isn't transactional on these forums. Some of you fucking people, I swear - if you think what Speedi is doing is RMT, you're an idiot.

[tiadashi]

Thxs Speedi ill try to make that 8)

[Kaight]

lol why are you nerds so mad about someone increasing their follower count? It doesn't affect you in any way. In fact, you are the beneficiary. If you think p99 streamers are in it for donations (especially dudes,) you are woefully naive to that world. EQ streamers get maybe 20-30 viewers on a good night. It's a pretty fair exchange and quite generous, in my opinion.

I'll be there, looking forward to it! Thanks Speedi and DoF.

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol why are you nerds so mad about someone increasing their follower count? It doesn't affect you in any way. In fact, you are the beneficiary. If you think p99 streamers are in it for donations (especially dudes,) you are woefully naive to that world. EQ streamers get maybe 20-30 viewers on a good night. It's a pretty fair exchange and quite generous, in my opinion.

I'll be there, looking forward to it! Thanks Speedi and DoF.

Look forward to having you. It's gonna be a blast.