Vaccines are not safe

[Tradesonred]

When i was young i was vaccinated against smallpox and then never had smallpox.

Tragic story

[beyondinfin]

"Vaccines are not safe"... ok and having polio is?

[maskedmelon]

It is better that we should all live in a diminished state than that some should perish.

[renordw]

Of course there are some risks associated with vaccines, almost all medical procedures carry some sort of risk. X-rays increase the risk of getting cancer by radiation, but there is a tradeoff to fixing a broken bone.

Did you know half a billion people died from smallpox after 1900 alone? I think it's a good tradeoff.

[eadric]

The choice isn't actually between living with the diseases eliminated by vaccination or living with the rare side effects of additives like aluminum and mercury. The choice is between higher or lower profits for the manufacturers of the vaccines. We can have safe(r) vaccines.

Until we have real studies on the toxicity of aluminum introduced directly into the bloodstream, and the drug companies are held financially responsible for their actions via class action lawsuits, nothing is going to change.

[renordw]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The choice isn't actually between living with the diseases eliminated by vaccination or living with the rare side effects of additives like aluminum and mercury. The choice is between higher or lower profits for the manufacturers of the vaccines. We can have safe(r) vaccines.

Until we have real studies on the toxicity of aluminum introduced directly into the bloodstream, and the drug companies are held financially responsible for their actions via class action lawsuits, nothing is going to change.

Aluminum in the blood stream? You know there is aluminum in things you eat, right? Baking powder has sodium aluminum sulfate and I've never heard anybody complain about psychological effects from that.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The choice isn't actually between living with the diseases eliminated by vaccination or living with the rare side effects of additives like aluminum and mercury. The choice is between higher or lower profits for the manufacturers of the vaccines. We can have safe(r) vaccines.

Until we have real studies on the toxicity of aluminum introduced directly into the bloodstream, and the drug companies are held financially responsible for their actions via class action lawsuits, nothing is going to change.

Thats a reasonable stance i can live with. To have safe vaccines that companies dont cut corners with to make a buck. But usually the concept of vaccines itself is in question.

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats a reasonable stance i can live with. To have safe vaccines that companies dont cut corners with to make a buck. But usually the concept of vaccines itself is in question.

So you'd rather have a populace with crippled immune systems being farmed by the healthcare racket than allow our immunities to evolve to defend against illnesses?

Only people who go to the doctor get serious illnesses. Remember that

[renordw]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you'd rather have a populace with crippled immune systems being farmed by the healthcare racket than allow our immunities to evolve to defend against illnesses?

Only people who go to the doctor get serious illnesses. Remember that

I'm not even sure where to start, I'll just assume you know what buttons you're pushing.

[eadric]

Aluminum doesn't get absorbed in the digestive tract. It passes right through.