Question regarding camp rules

[Beauregard]

Originally Posted by Odeseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And from the above posts, you can see where it gets confusing. The lines are a bit blurry on this issue.

Hassel is right that I cannot know why a person is afk. But having a necro FD and go AFK at a camp and go to bed, then go to work and arrive back at his comp 24 hours or so after he arrived, but a minute before ishva pops. By all some of the logic presented above, he would have full and total rights to the camp because his toon was there for literally 24 hours AND no one can prove he wasn't AFK because he is not required to respond to anything, nor is he required to kill anything. If this is what is accepted, why doesn't any necro who has the timer simply FD AFK there for huge amounts of time? They would never EVER lose the camp. And as a mage, my invis does not last forever. I cannot AFK for hours and hours in the room like a necro could. So I would never even remotely have a chance to be there "before" a necro using FD AFK.

That (in a nutshell) is what the problem is for that group.

Basically people do. Getting there 12 - 15 hrs early isn't even uncommon. The only reason people don't sit at it 24/7 is because you could be doing other more profitable/fun things. I think that's basically what the GM's have stated. So you're entitled to do exactly that, but really your time isn't best spent there.

[President]

There was a RnF post brought up a while back about someone who was in Paw helping out newbies while waiting for Ishva. Someone else zoned in, said "you aren't standing here," and took the camp.

I believe in the rules it says you can claim multiple camps until someone else/group wants one of them, at which time the person claiming multiple camps gets to pick the one they want while giving the other over to the new person/group.

Although running all over paw while claiming Ishva might be kinda weak (since the above rule was mostly talking about an enchanter claiming frenzy/lord/hand/etc. at the same time), it would also be pretty lame to take a camp from someone who is just buffing lowbies while waiting.

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AFK camping ... means letting your pet kill something, over and over, while you are afk. This is frowned upon.

AFKing between spawns on a 16 minute camp? Not afk camping..

[Uthgaard]

If you want claim to a camp, you have to be present and able to respond to camp checks within a reasonable about of time. You can't just park a character there afk for 35 hours and 59 minutes and expect to monopolize it.

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Camping a mob is a privelege, not a right. If someone wants the privelege of having sole claim to a mob, they have to make the sacrifice of whatever else they could be doing with themselves. Claim to a camp is a considerable advantage, it comes with a cost. Choose wisely.

[Nuggie]

^^ ----clarification

[fohkure]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want claim to a camp, you have to be present and able to respond to camp checks within a reasonable about of time. You can't just park a character there afk for 35 hours and 59 minutes and expect to monopolize it.

This seems painfully obvious to me, the part you quoted anyways. If you fd/hide at a camp and go watch a movie, you aren't giving up anything but a higher electricity bill. Anyone can do that instead of camping out or afking in EC tunnel while they leave. What gives a person reasonable claim to a camp is the sacrifice of doing something else, not just in game either. The reason people who get to a movie an hour early get the best seats is because they gave up an hour of their lives to get those seats. It seems like the same thing to me.

Camping rare stuff is not supposed to be easy, that's the whole point.

Chris

[john_savage1982]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want claim to a camp, you have to be present and able to respond to camp checks within a reasonable about of time. You can't just park a character there afk for 35 hours and 59 minutes and expect to monopolize it.

Are you saying I must constantly be watching zone channels for camp checks? Half the time I don't even read chat while I'm playing. Also how would somebody go about "proving" somebody was afk for that long? Are people now required to respond to tells to verify non-afk?

I'm sorry if the rules aren't crystal clear how do you intent to enforce anything?

[Evilmog]

Originally Posted by john_savage1982 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying I must constantly be watching zone channels for camp checks? Half the time I don't even read chat while I'm playing. Also how would somebody go about "proving" somebody was afk for that long? Are people now required to respond to tells to verify non-afk?

I'm sorry if the rules aren't crystal clear how do you intent to enforce anything?

Do what I've done to Hadden campers a few times.

/tell camper Haddens there
/tell camper Hello?!?!
You have slain Hadden

In summary yes. Responding to tells is a good way to prove you arent afk

[john_savage1982]

if hadden is there and he isn't being killed is one thing, going afk for most of the spawn time and returning 20 minutes before to make sure you weren't off in your calculation insuring you can attack as soon as he spawns is another.

i don't really care if people aren't there. look at the poopsockers. most of them aren't there most of the time. if they aren't there when the mob spawns they risk losing it. i say say idea for other camps.

[Darkforge]

The way i did it back in the day was call in the zone (camp check) and if no-one called back then i went to the place i wanted to camp. Now if someone was there and AFK, this does not mean that they don’t get the camp or have it. You could be watching TV bathroom or whatever. Now i do believe if you are just AFK at a spawn and you know this person cannot kill the mob that spawns there and is just sitting there HOLDING a camp. Then it is free game. I believe if the person/s that can kill the mob, has to be present and at that location. But being AFK is not justified to taking a camp in no means. Like said in past posts, some spawns take up to 35 to 40 min just to spawn a place holder so if you watch TV you might not always be watching.