My experience with a raid guild on P99

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

these people who are getting gear on their 2nd and 3rd alts before you are deserving of all of it. these are the people who are responsible for your guild to get any loot at all, they do all the work. you would never ever be able to kill one of these dragons without them tracking and socking it for you.

i can tell by your attitude that you're not much of a player or bring much value to a raid, you should be lucky to get anything at all tbh

The guy is asking what he needs to do and people are ignoring him. How is this entitlement? He wants to participate. He can't bring value to a raid without someone telling him what he needs to be doing.

I can tell by your attitude that you're not much of a guildie, you should be lucky to get any apps at all.

[Shodo]

I can't speak for the "top tier" raid guilds, having never been in one, but outside of that category I can't really downplay how happy I've been with <Paradox>. We don't have the numbers or levels yet to hit the competitive raid zones like VP or ToV, but we do a great job of focusing on getting members Thurg gear and epic pieces, dungeon crawling, and other things. You might be a good fit for us if you don't mind missing out on best-in-slot gear (we hope to take a shot at that stuff some day though).

We also cooperate with guilds like <Super Friends> and <Azure Guard> that are more established to take on content we can't handle on our own. I haven't gotten to attend the joint-AG stuff myself but I've never had a bad encounter with their members, and our officers say good things about them. I have had the opportunity to raid with SF on several occasions, and they're always both friendly and knowledgeable. So if you still want a less "hardcore" attitude but would like better gearing opportunities than <Paradox> can currently offer, I would recommend checking out one of those two guilds (I don't know what their app needs are, I just know they're great).

[Nune]

Originally Posted by Shodo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't speak for the "top tier" raid guilds, having never been in one, but outside of that category I can't really downplay how happy I've been with <Paradox>. We don't have the numbers or levels yet to hit the competitive raid zones like VP or ToV, but we do a great job of focusing on getting members Thurg gear and epic pieces, dungeon crawling, and other things. You might be a good fit for us if you don't mind missing out on best-in-slot gear (we hope to take a shot at that stuff some day though).

We also cooperate with guilds like <Super Friends> and <Azure Guard> that are more established to take on content we can't handle on our own. I haven't gotten to attend the joint-AG stuff myself but I've never had a bad encounter with their members, and our officers say good things about them. I have had the opportunity to raid with SF on several occasions, and they're always both friendly and knowledgeable. So if you still want a less "hardcore" attitude but would like better gearing opportunities than <Paradox> can currently offer, I would recommend checking out one of those two guilds (I don't know what their app needs are, I just know they're great).

Back at you guys! <Paradox> is awesome, they really remind me of <Indignation> when we were building our forces and working on getting everyone to 60. Friendly dudes and dudettes, show up to raids on time, play their roles well, know their stuff, 10/10 across the board. Keep up the great work pals

[supermonk]

its unfortunate you feel this way as a new member, most end-game guilds are like this i presume though. the reasoning is because there are far too many instances where an app turned member would gear up and leave guild/quit. therefore, overtime guild members are less inclined to help green members on requests. honestly, if you just stick it out and prove you're an asset or prove that you're not going to ghost after you get X item, i'm almost certain the amount of help you will receive will increase over time. it's nothing personal really, but the more friends you make in guild and the more you help others, the more people will be inclined to help you down the road.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by supermonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its unfortunate you feel this way as a new member, most end-game guilds are like this i presume though. the reasoning is because there are far too many instances where an app turned member would gear up and leave guild/quit. therefore, overtime guild members are less inclined to help green members on requests. honestly, if you just stick it out and prove you're an asset or prove that you're not going to ghost after you get X item, i'm almost certain the amount of help you will receive will increase over time. it's nothing personal really, but the more friends you make in guild and the more you help others, the more people will be inclined to help you down the road.

Yeah that's probably the deal, actually. Makes sense tbh. Think I just had way too high expectations though and a few bad personal experiences with some members that then made me feel resentful to the guild as a whole. Probably not a fair assessment on my part.

[vincenzo]

OP and fan D must be in the same guild

OP: join a smaller knit guild that is trying to break into the raiding scene so you can establish yourself as a core member as opposed to a fringe nobody. Elitism aside, the top-end players on this server have seen so many people come and go that you are just another statistic to them. Unless you have something special that distances you from the pack I would suggest avoiding the highest tier raiding guilds if your main goal is to have fun and form relationships.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by vincenzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP and fan D must be in the same guild

OP: join a smaller knit guild that is trying to break into the raiding scene so you can establish yourself as a core member as opposed to a fringe nobody. Elitism aside, the top-end players on this server have seen so many people come and go that you are just another statistic to them. Unless you have something special that distances you from the pack I would suggest avoiding the highest tier raiding guilds if your main goal is to have fun and form relationships.

Yeah, good advice. Think that's what I will do. I rather have fun and be a part of something more directly than just a fringe player who is nothing more than another statistic. Thanks for the insight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nune]

People who put more time and effort into a guild will be better received in said guild than someone who's soaking DKP and logging off or someone new. This entire server is cliquey, that is in no way unique to any guild.

If you and 20 of your friends showed up to a party, would there not be a handful of the 20 you have better relationships with and likely spend more time conversing with? Instead of partying, its playing EQ. It's just human nature.

As far as giving loot to "established" members alts vs. needing mains, you've narrowed down the mystery of which guild youre speaking of because that is business as usual for a handful of the guilds here. Raiding guilds generally: Dont have the guild members / schedule to do big boy targets (casual) so it's more laid back - or - Youre a top end raiding guild and the games taken much more seriously. I find 0 entertainment in staring at a camp waiting for __ hours for something to pop, throwing a shoe at it, running in a circle for 15 minutes and zerging it down in 12 seconds. But I'll never get top end raid gear because of that stance, so thats my volition.

[Lojik]

Just try to be vocal in guild chat:ask what's happening or anything you can help with. Once people get to know you they're more willing to help you when you need. Don't be afraid to ask for help with stuff before you get to know people either though, just try not to get discouraged if people don't come running right away

[Erati]

Never be afraid to ask another member a question, if they act like they are bothered by conversation from another member then they are the ones with the issue, not you.