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Old 10-02-2016, 10:03 AM
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they're coming for you, daywolf.. you know that
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Old 10-02-2016, 09:09 PM
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they're coming for you, daywolf.. you know that
Who, your guillotine people trying the take the Révolution to the world and start libérateur heads from shoulders? I just squirt some ketchsup at 'em. Long live La résistance.
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:58 AM
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My issue with the whole ting is that these people are suffering. Normal people feel bad about this, but very few have the gumption to do what is right. Donating a dollar here or 100 there won't end the suffering. Sure it will make you feel better like you are doing something 'good', but at the end of the day, the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.

Supporting global initiatives to vaccinate these people against malaria or provide them with a loaf of bread a day so that they may continue to live in a prison of squalor and misery for decades is morally repugnant.
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(..)the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.

Supporting global initiatives to vaccinate these people against malaria or provide them with a loaf of bread a day so that they may continue to live in a prison of squalor and misery for decades is morally repugnant.
if you think it's "morally repugnant" to help them get basic needs instead of dying, i don't know what to say [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you think volunteering to give food to homeless people is morally wrong too ?
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the only way to put and end to it is to either adopt some of these people, caring and providing for them as you would your own children, or let them die.
Nah. Teach them to fish and quit damming up the stream is my long-term solution. People are afraid that if they are allowed to better their lives, they will become consumers and destroy the planet with global warming etc. It's just a way to control them, to keep them in poverty so they have no say in what is going on in the world. If they have power, clean water, communications, some of them might realize what's really going on and try to stop it. They have enough problematic people in the world like that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-03-2016, 04:41 PM
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if you think it's "morally repugnant" to help them get basic needs instead of dying, i don't know what to say [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you think volunteering to give food to homeless people is morally wrong too ?
Yes, it is self serving. It doesn't solve the problem, but eases one's conscience for "doing what they can." Different people have different thresholds, but ultimately their conscience is eased enough that they do nothing more well before the problem is corrected, sustaining the state of misery and ensuring it is still there in the future for them to repeat their meaningless contribution, feel better about their incomplete contribution and be more thankful for what they have.

Very few people are willing to pay the price of correcting the issue, whether it be material or emotional.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:32 PM
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Nah. Teach them to fish and quit damming up the stream is my long-term solution.
This is my point Day :/ Who s going to teach them to fish? Who will teach them to craft rods and line? Who is going to teach them them to defend themselves from the hungry people who have not been taught to fish? What will they do when they've exhausted the stream? Who is going to teach them the basic life skills needed to succeed?

If it is one person we are talking about then you can take them into your home, teach them all these things and help them get set up to start their own life. Donating 25 cents a day to Food For the Poor or funding individuals to go teach men to fish in their own lands does not fix the problem. It supports it.
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