The legality of vigilantism is fundamentally flawed

[Bones]

the real problem is that population is just too high.

too many people

[entruil]

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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allowance of vigilantism breaks down to subjective enforcements which is a chaotic spiral.

The familial, feudal system you mentioned has been tried, and doesn't work for large groups. Usually leads to tribal like alliances, fights, and infighting.

Governance ain't easy.

Hold up. I was careful to say soft, not allowed.

We are talking 5-8 year prison sentences for cases of vigilantism, in stay of the 20-40 year sentences we typically are seeing for the last few decades (and only seem to be increasing). You don't believe in that?

[Angushjalmur]

Why have any penalty for instances of vigilantism that are justified though?

Someone kills a member of your family, kill a member of theirs ect.

There's nothing to penalize there

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why have any penalty for instances of vigilantism that are justified though?

Someone kills a member of your family, kill a member of theirs ect.

There's nothing to penalize there

I like to think that a "No-Harm" policy is what we strive to live by.

It's kinda like an election... it can Never be "fair" unless everyone agrees on the rules.

Starting from a place of "Freedom of One's Own Body", there are certain parallels that are inherant.

We are able to decide for Ourselves how we wish to earn/accomplish/proceed.
I am not able to decide for Yourself how you can earn/accomplish/proceed.

therefore,

We both must come to an acceptable standard when mitigating disputes.

I will go in my corner and you can goto your's. We will not be able to hit each other, but just in case, we have an army of like-minds ready to enforce and live prosperously and in peace.


Now Sir, I ask Me!, how Drunk are You!

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like to think that a "No-Harm" policy is what we strive to live by.

It's kinda like an election... it can Never be "fair" unless everyone agrees on the rules.

Starting from a place of "Freedom of One's Own Body", there are certain parallels that are inherant.

We are able to decide for Ourselves how we wish to earn/accomplish/proceed.
I am not able to decide for Yourself how you can earn/accomplish/proceed.

therefore,

We both must come to an acceptable standard when mitigating disputes.

I will go in my corner and you can goto your's. We will not be able to hit each other, but just in case, we have an army of like-minds ready to enforce and live prosperously and in peace.


Now Sir, I ask Me!, how Drunk are You!

As widespread as war is, as violent as law enforcement are, the amount of violence that is allowed on TV ect i'd hardly say we strive to live by a no harm system.

But assuming we do, It hasnt worked out too well. When you can't kill those who need to be killed, you end up with people like Hillary Clinton running for president

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As widespread as war is, as violent as law enforcement are, the amount of violence that is allowed on TV ect i'd hardly say we strive to live by a no harm system.

But assuming we do, It hasnt worked out too well. When you can't kill those who need to be killed, you end up with people like Hillary Clinton running for president

I can't say that we do and I am speaking from my Ideal(read; my interpretation of what's right and Spirit of the Rules(Bill of Rights) so to speak) yet i dug many holes.

hmm ... to much bait there... you are making me rethink thought and posting...

I will throw this in just so people will hate me. It will also have to suffice for my psyche to not have to create a 4-part novel and become a millionaire...

*---- Not Good Rap Loud Curse and anti-thetical(dont know what that means) ----*
Don't Click*Esham - Brick*Don't Click it's worst East Side Hoes and Money

*--Still Meant It , Except I Didn't--*

after preview i add...

Don't blame me for the Libertarian's Curse...



'I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.'
~ Woodrow Wilson (this was after he passed the federal reserve act of 1913)


*`-stands so far, but i just actually read your last post and realized this was an aggravated expansion of... hmm...

[Daywolf]

Well, I sorta like the 5th amendment and that it provides "due process of law".
You can always become a bounty hunter though, within the due process of the law of course.

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I sorta like the 5th amendment and that it provides "due process of law".
You can always become a bounty hunter though, within the due process of the law of course.

Catch and release (into custody) only perpetuates the issues we face as a society.

Let's use Detroit as an example.

They get double digit shootings and more crime than their police can even respond to every week. A good amount of it is being caused by the same people over and over. They get arrested for this or that, bail out, keep doing it, go to court and maybe get prison time. Then they get out and do the same shit again.

Why not let the people handle it? If someone is bringing crime to your neighborhood, it should be your duty to get rid of that person the same way being a citizen obligates you to defend your country from foreign invaders.

You shouldn't shit where you eat, and you shouldn't allow others to shit where you eat either.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Angushjalmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's use Detroit as an example.

The City was/is still not able to provide basic services. Communities stricken with conflict elected to band together and police themselves, shift services, and prospered at a great rate.... it's more an example of strength through necessity as toward your OP than it is against it ... but that's just like, my opinion, man.