Aftermath suspeneded... discuss

[botrainer]

Proposal to bring windows back together
In an effort to bring timers closers together, Aftermath would like to propose a one week, your FTE your mob. Starting Monday at midnight EST till midnight est Saturday, if your guild gets an FTE on a raid mob, you get claim to it. On Saturday all mobs that have been FTE'ed throughout the week will be killed in an effort to bring windows back together to give all guilds a better shot at getting mobs and most of all reduce the burden of tracking 24/7.

It's apparent we won't be getting any hard resets any time soon so taking it upon the community to fix it is the best chance we have. Contrary to popular belief, we here do have lives and do not want to continue tracking 5/7 days a week.

Thoughts?

Detoxx posted this...the top 2 guilds created this server to be like this, rather than work together on a common and reasonable 4 guild rotation (once a week rotate zones for raid targets) you made it a foot race, 24/7 tracking effort to be "the best of the best". Detoxx and every member of the high-end uber loser dry humper guilds supported and created this mess. Im glad he is seeing the error of his ways, sadly not enough players have. There should be a rotation of the high end zones to allow guilds to do a crawl on a weekend at a set time which would do a way with the need for hardcore socking. It's easier to get attendance when raid mobs are already up and primed for the kill.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proposal to bring windows back together
In an effort to bring timers closers together, Aftermath would like to propose a one week, your FTE your mob. Starting Monday at midnight EST till midnight est Saturday, if your guild gets an FTE on a raid mob, you get claim to it. On Saturday all mobs that have been FTE'ed throughout the week will be killed in an effort to bring windows back together to give all guilds a better shot at getting mobs and most of all reduce the burden of tracking 24/7.

It's apparent we won't be getting any hard resets any time soon so taking it upon the community to fix it is the best chance we have. Contrary to popular belief, we here do have lives and do not want to continue tracking 5/7 days a week.

Thoughts?

Detoxx posted this...the top 2 guilds created this server to be like this, rather than work together on a common and reasonable 4 guild rotation (once a week rotate zones for raid targets) you made it a foot race, 24/7 tracking effort to be "the best of the best". Detoxx and every member of the high-end uber loser dry humper guilds supported and created this mess. Im glad he is seeing the error of his ways, sadly not enough players have. There should be a rotation of the high end zones to allow guilds to do a crawl on a weekend at a set time which would do a way with the need for hardcore socking. It's easier to get attendance when raid mobs are already up and primed for the kill.

I don't read text walls from ppl who had to go through four raid guilds and two expansions to get his mage epic

[botrainer]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't read text walls from ppl who had to go through four raid guilds and two expansions to get his mage epic

The driving force behind leaving any guild is when it turns into the shit fest I didn't sign up for. To help correct the record(for those who dont know), I didn't start playing here until well after Kunark was out. started: Sunday, August 12, 2012 13:03 hours just over 4 years. This date coming from the first toon I ever created on the server doesn't mean I was active by any means.

It wasn't because I had to go through four guilds as well. Each guild turn into something I didn't want from...A FREE ONLINE GAME(OMG SHOCKER!).

TMO was my first exposure of the shit show, didnt know what I was getting into (On top of that they gave epics to alts of players who never played them but in chardok aoe groups) then turned into Forsaken then Aftermath.

Asgard; went from causal into what's now known as Aftermath.

Taken; turned into whats now known as Awakened.

My statement has held true each time. I was always clear upon joining, I don't want hardcore, i don't want endless batphones, I don't want the shit fest that is the "High end raiding" that's on this server. If you felt I was trying to hide that fact I'm sorry I didn't make it anymore clear when I said it.

The raiding and all it's raid rules on this server are not classic, the lawyer questing on this server is not classic, the endless amount of cheaters who re-offend near 3 to 5 times a year never get suspended any longer then a few days, the guild see's a 1 week suspension from raiding and they are back on it, again. All those signs are what's unhealthy about this server. Bottom line is this. Cheaters keep cheating, get busted, always come back. The high end raiding on this server is terrible and only made worse by the 2 top end guilds. So, for me as a player, I want more out of the game than what the "high end raiding" has to offer. Sorry to disappoint, but feel free to mock away. Only goes to show how much of a shmuch you are.

[Gimp]

Accidentally hit submit, but there has to be more to the story than that

[baue1446]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Accidentally hit submit, but there has to be more to the story than that

and yet there is not.. thats EXACTLY how it happened... 100%

[Kodim]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Accidentally hit submit, but there has to be more to the story than that

The only part more is AM then dropped Dozekar while it was in camp to "reset" it, but you also can't do that apparently.

[Signal]

Such a relief not raiding on this server anymore. Try Al'kabor Project bros if you are tired of the drama filled idiocy that is P99 raiding. Velious releasing there tomorrow.

[Ella`Ella]

[4/19/2016 1:18:56 AM] sirken eLanti .: if no one is contesting anything that you guys are fine
[4/19/2016 1:20:08 AM] sirken eLanti .: the rule exists to give all guilds a fair shot. if your guild is the only guild contesting, then it really doesnt matter. its kinda like how faydedar was, in the sense that if no other guild was there to contest, you were allowed to kite him around until you were ready to kill. but as soon as another guild shows up to contest, then its no longer ok

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[4/19/2016 1:18:56 AM] sirken eLanti .: if no one is contesting anything that you guys are fine
[4/19/2016 1:20:08 AM] sirken eLanti .: the rule exists to give all guilds a fair shot. if your guild is the only guild contesting, then it really doesnt matter. its kinda like how faydedar was, in the sense that if no other guild was there to contest, you were allowed to kite him around until you were ready to kill. but as soon as another guild shows up to contest, then its no longer ok

The plot thickens.

If its true that no one was available to contest, then this suspension should be commuted or overturned, no? Rules do change and the spirit of the rules matters more than the written rule itself.

Is it possible Aftermath was found in violation of the spirit of the rules?

The particulars aren't clear and I am sure its under review.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules do change and the spirit of the rules matters more than the written rule itself.

this is what I told a cop one time who pulled me over for rolling through a stop-sign when nobody else was even on the street

didn't work out for me then either