France Asserts Women's Right to Wear Clothes

[R Flair]

A dress code in a place you work is one thing. Enforcing a dress code on the general public by the government is a bad thing.

Also don't buy this beach values bullshit. Beach is no different than any place else. Claiming people have to respect some sort of western beach values is total bullshit. Its just a public place like any other.

Again, don't care about muslim rights per se, but I do care about decisions regarding them that may infringe on my personal liberties. For that, I think telling people they can't wear a burkini is an obvious bad choice.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A dress code in a place you work is one thing. Enforcing a dress code on the general public by the government is a bad thing.

Also don't buy this beach values bullshit. Beach is no different than any place else. Claiming people have to respect some sort of western beach values is total bullshit. Its just a public place like any other.

Again, don't care about muslim rights per se, but I do care about decisions regarding them that may infringe on my personal liberties. For that, I think telling people they can't wear a burkini is an obvious bad choice.

i never thought i would say that ever, but i totally agree with you

AzzarTheDumb: http://www.ouest-france.fr/bretagne/...a-plage-732822

props to the guys that went to the beach in their moto suit too:
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We're fucking invaded by islamimz /s
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thats one way to get open borders...

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i just wonder why this is news... i get why it's bazonker's but... the state of emergency is more troubling, is it still going on?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States...ency_in_France says it is....


'Proclaiming the state of emergency gives exceptional powers to the Minister of the Interior and to prefects. The Minister can pronounce house arrests. The prefects can regulate or forbid circulation and gathering in some areas: the power of curfew, which mayors can pronounce for the territory of their city independently of the state of emergency, is extended to prefects.'

'On 13 November 2015, immediately following a series of terrorist attacks in Paris, and presently ongoing. As of 23 July 2016, almost 3,600 houses had been raided, under the state of emergency, and five of these raids led to a terrorism-linked judicial investigation.'

so they let a bunch of people in to cause craziness and then institute Bigger Bro and General Warrants?... is this verifiable?

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll ask again, do you prefer rape for your daughter or a betrayal of Western values to protect yourself from the savages you were too weak to resist allowing within your borders? These, or God forbid, physical removal of immigrants who belong to cultures that are statistically more likely to be unable to assimilate (includes physical removal of people who do not deserve it), are your options.

How does banning the burkini protect anyone? Are we to assume that because muslim women aren't able to wear it, that all muslims, both men and women, will simply opt out of visiting the beach?

Again, this is just passive aggression when direct aggression is needed. This is just people helplessly lashing out.

Assuming that banning burkini's actually does somehow magically prevent muslims from going to the beach and therefore groping women (which is asinine), no I still wouldn't support it. Not unless the law read:
Any muslim found wearing a burkini will be arrested and deported, and also any muslim found anywhere regardless of attire will likewise be deported.

They need to deal with the root of the problem, not the symptoms.

Taking away the rights of the general populus is always done in the name of protection. In this case, they need to protect the people from those who are threatening them, not create a cause for further civil disturbances.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ur right, but u also don't have the hungry eyes and fingers of dozens of creepy savages touching your loved ones with enmity for their wanton driving them to temptation (remember, it's their fault for tempting them to rape by being uncovered).

Like everything you say is objectively true thru the lens of Western values, yet having dozens of people from a wacky sex cult in bondage gear on a beach where women are typically scantily clad is asking for trouble. This is more or less the reason mormons were driven into the wilderness back in the day. Certain bizarre domineering sex cults are just not compatible with open civilization when they are allowed to form parallel societies (individual units are much less dangerous).

I'll ask again, do you prefer rape for your daughter or a betrayal of Western values to protect yourself from the savages you were too weak to resist allowing within your borders? These, or God forbid, physical removal of immigrants who belong to cultures that are statistically more likely to be unable to assimilate (includes physical removal of people who do not deserve it), are your options.

This. The Burkini is downright fucking anti-social. I don't care if its associated with a religion. Its antisocial like wearing an open trench coat to the grocery store or market and letting your dick hang out. You are supposed to be clothed at a store, beach you are not clothed.

Those bikers are fucking retarded I'd kick sand straight into their face, I hope they are wearing goggles.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. The Burkini is downright fucking anti-social. I don't care if its associated with a religion. Its antisocial like wearing an open trench coat to the grocery store or market and letting your dick hang out. You are supposed to be clothed at a store, beach you are not clothed.

Those bikers are fucking retarded I'd kick sand straight into their face, I hope they are wearing goggles.

Dude, you are on the wrong side of this. Who are you to decide what is sociable and where we must do it? I don't know about you, but i live in Murica where we aren't "supposed" to do anything anywhere we don't care to.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, you are on the wrong side of this. Who are you to decide what is sociable and where we must do it? I don't know about you, but i live in Murica where we aren't "supposed" to do anything anywhere we don't care to.

Maybe you just aren't intimately familiar with the institution of beaches in general and aren't partial to care about it.

Yeah we're not supposed to, but you are talking about injecting dark ages culture into my beach and calling it enrichment. Doing whatever you want has limits under the constitution.

You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. You cannot make written threats, and verbal threats are also becoming criminalized quickly.

Freedom of speech and expression has a history of only being acceptable in this country when its the norm, and jives with Western values. This is why you can't invoke freedom of speech and expression in all circumstances.

We had this tiff already over pornography in the 80's and early 90's with the John Stagliano criminal indictment. It took time to determine whether there was a legal basis for the case and what the definition of obscenity was. Until the burkini goes to the Supreme court, I'll stand my ground.

I maintain I am on the right side of this. I believe in limits.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really tough to argue that being fully covered is comparable to screaming fire. You could say lack of face visibility is a security risk, but fuck that I have the right to anonymity in public if I'm not being stopped for something.

Problem is you can't take the obvious correct course of action without betraying principles. Incompatible cultures.

Must limit intake such that assimilation occurs, regardless of how low that requires the rate to be.

What of the existing bans on masks and facial covering in most US cities? Im not aware of how that is being handled in the US.

Most major states/cities have a ban on face masks (including sentencing upgrades for crimes committed with a full ski-mask/face mask), and including laws the expressly ban the wearing of a full face mask/ski mask. This ban is circumvented by criminals seeking to avoid the "ski-mask" law by using a bandana around the lower half of the face, which prevents the sentencing upgrade from being applied as the language of the law in LA views a partial face covering as legal afaik.

Just an example of the complexities of "mask law" and was wondering if anyone knows if a full burka is even allowed in these states and cities?

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it is verifiable and i find the bullshit dancing aorund this idea innapropriate ... i'm sorry if i cause your country that is democratically socialist to reject the principles of private property and self-determination....

stand up (lay down in the case of the assed-out moto-bike civil disruptors who displayed themselves in their own self-made ovens for cooking on the beach)....

Twista - Adrenaline Rush album

it's no wonder why im ignored most of the time... but ... im really not tryin' to kill this place even if thats my order...

more like, wake up, pay attention, see the views that are outside of MY range....


welcome jarnauga because if we don't we will suffer the same wrath knowing or not...


heow... so much for leavin the lime out... damn.... DAMMIR... (throwbakc shoutouts to t0y,bot, spirit , caustik, ryu, yea ill stop.... flo got the most, we decide but , nothing about now, here , today.

[R Flair]

Attacking someones clothing is just a bitch-made roundabout way of condemning a religion/culture that threatens their laws and values. They should grow a pair and address the real issue instead of making up stupid rules that also restrict and infringe on the rights of their "normal" citizens.

But this is the french we're talking about, so growing a pair is probably out of the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft9rCXsYCpY