Shocking footage of 'Nazi youth camp' in Sweden

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never heard this. I have heard american's and even generals including Patton's writing attesting to them being more than just "work camps".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrdru...amp#Liberation

"I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations to merely 'propaganda.'"

-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Good thing we have the word of the Supreme Allied Commander to assure us it wasn't just propaganda.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, evidence of barbarity and war crimes committed under conditions of starvation at the end of the war which I do not deny, yet still not a camp designed for systematic extermination.

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maybe the genius nazi scientists knew what areas the Soviets would conquer and only put death camps there, for plausible deniability later???

You are incredibly stupid. Mincing words while leaning with revisionist history...smells like /pol bullshit.

[Raev]

It's also plausible that they put them all in Poland <shrug>

[maskedmelon]

I can't imagine why people would bother making up this kind of stuff. Men are just nasty disgusting animals. I mean look at what the Japanese did to the Chinese in Nanking and what the US did to the North Koreans in the Korean War. The victims of these atrocities have multiple museums filled with evidence of the crimes. The holocaust is just another example of the depravity of man.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not that it's implausible or even that Germany didn't commit an organized genocide, it's that the numbers and key set pieces of the mythology (ash rain over cities) are dogshit war propaganda and discussion of that can literally land you in jail in certain serf states.

As for "why people would bother making up this kind of stuff" about an enemy nation that poses an existential threat and requires the total mobilization of the state, gee I don't know. Why 70 more years of propaganda demonizing a form of government that was never tested outside of wartime and almost got a nation off of the fiat plantation? Why create a giant looming specter of mass extermination over any discussion of distancing the nation from the international debt system? gee I sure can not think of any people who would benefit from maintaining their control over hundreds of millions of debt slaves.

Well, I do t know either. That was the point of my post. It is unlike you to beat around the bush like this though. You are not suggesting that war museums are full of propaganda that is pumped into the public feeding trough, starting with indoctrination at school, reinforced with national commemorance days and David Attenborough at home and protected by law elsewhere, are you?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azzar can answer himself, but for my part: every single concentration camp liberated by the Soviets was supposedly a death camp, while every US/Brit-liberated was a work camp in varying state of starvation and unsupply. The entire idea of extermination camps is Soviet propaganda we decided we would not argue with -- not to say that these camps were not hell by the end of the war, but Auschwitz sending millions of people through its tiny crematorium in a few years? Yeah, that's something a commissar first started saying about an existential threat during wartime.

The number 6 million was chosen arbitrarily and had prophetic significance in Talmudic and cabalistic traditions before WW2. Death counts have steadily inflated since the 70s with no corresponding evidentiary support as Holocaust lore became more dogma than history.

Germans definitely carried out genocide in Eastern front occupied territories as part of their anti-partisan activities (wipe the entire population of likely partisans rather than have any sort of due process) and killed political opponents in Western Europe likely numbering in the millions, but the whole extermination camp 6 million thing is garbage duke.

Never forget the 26 gazillion*











*WW2 Holocaust scaled to year 2070 by investigative courts commissioned by the Chief Justice.

[AzzarTheGod]

They're going to hang someone upside down a tree with a fork up there ass by the year 2070 for saying 6 million. Don't sell yourselves short now by agreeing with the 6 million number.

Everything you say is being recorded.

[Spyder73]

Even if the numbers are exaggerated, its exaggerating one of the worst times in human history. WW2 in general is the darkest period in human existence in my opinion. You are arguing over shades of black - even if it’s not midnight oil black, its still black as f@ck. There is no reason to disparage holocaust victims or diminish the atrocities committed in WW2.

You are agreeing that the Little Johnny beat the dog, but arguing over the severity of the beating – the dog is dead either way so let it go

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if the numbers are exaggerated, its exaggerating one of the worst times in human history. WW2 in general is the darkest period in human existence in my opinion. You are arguing over shades of black - even if it’s not midnight oil black, its still black as f@ck. There is no reason to disparage holocaust victims or diminish the atrocities committed in WW2.

You are agreeing that the Little Johnny beat the dog, but arguing over the severity of the beating – the dog is dead either way so let it go

I can't even respond to this right now. Give me about an hour to charge up.

This thread derail wasn't about the number of Jews killed, you are only picking out one thing Big J said and trying to reason it to reach general agreement. We shall not have agreement on this day.

[Jarnauga]

you guys just went full /pol/ again