Millennial men 20% weaker than their fathers

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just search for: nutrient deficient foods
for starts.
Then you can maybe capture the magic of posting on something you know a little about rather than opinion just flying out of thin air [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
results such as http://www.motherearthnews.com/natur...z13jjzmat.aspx
You just get fat w/o the nutrients as your body still craves them thus more and more food intake yet less and less health. You can pretty much blame the FDA, agricultural subsidy, ethanol production, or anything involving the fed govt where everything golden they touch turns to led.

As for the past, actually if you go back before electricity, most people heated their homes with wood. The remains made for very excellent nutrient rich fertilizer. Now they just dump human waste (people shit sort of like soylent green) onto farms then spray them with pesticides 1000x the dosage (and greater every year as GMO crops fail) just to maintain minimal production. Great famine coming.

Wow.....drugs for sure.

[Slathar]

this Daywolf psycho definitely has penned a manifesto which will go viral when he inevitably does something insane and violent

[pgerman]

wa po readers are 83% more gay than the rest of the universe

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by JackFlash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow.....drugs for sure.

Dude, just go eat your Nutella and pretend you're not eating cake frosting lol
So many people have lost the ability for critical thinking, and they're dropping like bees.

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, just go eat your Nutella and pretend you're not eating cake frosting lol
So many people have lost the ability for critical thinking, and they're dropping like bees.

Your thinking or lack thereof has definitely reached critical levels. Go read a book instead of eating so much red meat. Or maybe have some of that nutritious wood charcoal you fertilize your garden with.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by JackFlash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell us more about the real food? I would argue that as you go back to the 50's (millenial fathers) food gets worse by the year and people actually eat better now.

The NPK fertilizer revolution started in 1945 when the bomb companies realized that fertilizer and bombs are very similar chemically (think McVeigh). The problem is that while you can grow great looking plants with NPK, humans need the trace minerals like selenium, copper, zinc, etc. Then you have the Great Hybridization; modern wheat has far more poisonous gluten than it did before. Then you have the carcinogenic artificial sweeteners (read up on Aspartame and Rumsfeld sometime). Then you have the confinement beef and dairy where the animals wallow in their own poo and are so unhealthy that they need constant shots of antibiotics to avoid keeling over dead. Then you have the nutty crusade against animal fats; McDonalds used to fry their french fries in beef tallow! And finally you have the food pyramid which encouraged Americans to fry their pancreas with 500+ calories of carbs at every meal.

So I'm curious why you think that our food is somehow better nowadays. It's *possible* to eat better now, but it's very hard.

Also, since the article measured grip strength, I find it rather interesting that ever since I started doing kettlebell swings my grip has gotten a lot better. I went back to my CoC grippers that I haven't used in a year (I bought them to help my deadlifts, which are still limited by my hands) and nearly did the #1 (140 lbs) with my weak hand (inb4 masturbatory jokes). Pretty amazing considering I only do swings with the 40 lb bell and with two hands.

[Danth]

I drive a car with a V-8 engine, wear a broad-brimmed hat, believe men are men and women are women and it's okay that they're not the same, and don't have any notion of how to work a smartphone (indeed, I refuse to carry a cellular phone at all). Guess I'm a dinosaur. I can live with that.

A lot of the reason you're seeing an increase in cancer deaths and such nowadays has to be because folks aren't dying of other stuff first quite so often. Historically it was fairly commonplace for men, especially, to keel over dead from heart attacks in their upper 40's or 50's. That doesn't happen nearly so often anymore. My old man had a major heart attack in 1988 that should've killed him when he was 61 (and would have in any other era)...instead he recovered and lived almost another 20 years and died of other issues unrelated to the heart instead. Same for my mom, she lived long enough due to modern health care that she died of things that wouldn't have had a chance to kill her in earlier eras. Heck, prior to postwar medicine she would've died from pregnancy complications and I wouldn't be here to post this. It's a common story. Odds are a fair number of you folks wouldn't, either, considering that some half of all people used to die in childhood, who consequently never had a chance to die of the things we die of nowadays.

There's truth in that it's all too easy to eat a lot of food and still wind up malnourished. We're better off than we used to be because most everyone can *afford* food now (food used to be expensive!) but folks still have to educate themselves to be sure they're getting the nutrition they need. "Junk" food is a fairly modern invention and the human subconscious hasn't really had a chance to get used to the notion, yet.

At least in my case the change in restaurant cooking oil had a very unintended effect: The vegetable-oil fried french fries are far inferior, taste disgusting, and caused me to stop eating out years ago. The restaurants also seem to dump loads more salt on stuff to try to compensate for the lack of flavor and it only succeeds in turning the food into a sort of salt lick. Lots more sugar in stuff now too. Yuck! In the early 90's I used to buy fries a couple times a week, at least....I haven't bought any for years and years now.

That being said, I don't drink bottled water. It always tastes like plastic and I'm fairly sure water isn't supposed to taste like plastic.

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If men aren't developing their muscles as well nowadays as they used to it's quite probably due more to changing demands than due to dietary factors. Most modern men simply don't *use* their muscles all that much unless due to deliberate exercise; manual labor just isn't a big deal for most folks. Doing homeowner work with picks and shovels and blue-collar factory work involving heavy lifting has largely been replaced by mechanized assistance and white-collar office work. To put it another way, I bet most men can't ride a horse as well as the typical guy could 100 years ago, either.

Those "manly" victorian-era men? Nope, they were routinely mocked for being foppish dandys by the older men of that time. I look at millennial guys and think all too many of 'em look like a bunch of sorry weaklings, but that's the new norm and they're a reflection of the times just as I'm a reflection of my era.

[bdastomper58]

you say gluten is poisonous but don't know what gluten is.

unsurprising.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I drive a car with a V-8 engine, wear a broad-brimmed hat, believe men are men and women are women and it's okay that they're not the same, and don't have any notion of how to work a smartphone (indeed, I refuse to carry a cellular phone at all). Guess I'm a dinosaur. I can live with that.

A lot of the reason you're seeing an increase in cancer deaths and such nowadays has to be because folks aren't dying of other stuff first quite so often. Historically it was fairly commonplace for men, especially, to keel over dead from heart attacks in their upper 40's or 50's. That doesn't happen nearly so often anymore. My old man had a major heart attack in 1988 that should've killed him when he was 61 (and would have in any other era)...instead he recovered and lived almost another 20 years and died of other issues unrelated to the heart instead. Same for my mom, she lived long enough due to modern health care that she died of things that wouldn't have had a chance to kill her in earlier eras. Heck, prior to postwar medicine she would've died from pregnancy complications and I wouldn't be here to post this. It's a common story. Odds are a fair number of you folks wouldn't, either, considering that some half of all people used to die in childhood, who consequently never had a chance to die of the things we die of nowadays.

There's truth in that it's all too easy to eat a lot of food and still wind up malnourished. We're better off than we used to be because most everyone can *afford* food now (food used to be expensive!) but folks still have to educate themselves to be sure they're getting the nutrition they need. "Junk" food is a fairly modern invention and the human subconscious hasn't really had a chance to get used to the notion, yet.

At least in my case the change in restaurant cooking oil had a very unintended effect: The vegetable-oil fried french fries are far inferior, taste disgusting, and caused me to stop eating out years ago. The restaurants also seem to dump loads more salt on stuff to try to compensate for the lack of flavor and it only succeeds in turning the food into a sort of salt lick. Lots more sugar in stuff now too. Yuck! In the early 90's I used to buy fries a couple times a week, at least....I haven't bought any for years and years now.

That being said, I don't drink bottled water. It always tastes like plastic and I'm fairly sure water isn't supposed to taste like plastic.

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If men aren't developing their muscles as well nowadays as they used to it's quite probably due more to changing demands than due to dietary factors. Most modern men simply don't *use* their muscles all that much unless due to deliberate exercise; manual labor just isn't a big deal for most folks. Doing homeowner work with picks and shovels and blue-collar factory work involving heavy lifting has largely been replaced by mechanized assistance and white-collar office work. To put it another way, I bet most men can't ride a horse as well as the typical guy could 100 years ago, either.

Those "manly" victorian-era men? Nope, they were routinely mocked for being foppish dandys by the older men of that time. I look at millennial guys and think all too many of 'em look like a bunch of sorry weaklings, but that's the new norm and they're a reflection of the times just as I'm a reflection of my era.

I see. Would you describe yourself as a Renaissance man?

[pathius41]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I drive a car with a V-8 engine, wear a broad-brimmed hat, believe men are men and women are women and it's okay that they're not the same, and don't have any notion of how to work a smartphone (indeed, I refuse to carry a cellular phone at all). Guess I'm a dinosaur. I can live with that.

A lot of the reason you're seeing an increase in cancer deaths and such nowadays has to be because folks aren't dying of other stuff first quite so often. Historically it was fairly commonplace for men, especially, to keel over dead from heart attacks in their upper 40's or 50's. That doesn't happen nearly so often anymore. My old man had a major heart attack in 1988 that should've killed him when he was 61 (and would have in any other era)...instead he recovered and lived almost another 20 years and died of other issues unrelated to the heart instead. Same for my mom, she lived long enough due to modern health care that she died of things that wouldn't have had a chance to kill her in earlier eras. Heck, prior to postwar medicine she would've died from pregnancy complications and I wouldn't be here to post this. It's a common story. Odds are a fair number of you folks wouldn't, either, considering that some half of all people used to die in childhood, who consequently never had a chance to die of the things we die of nowadays.

There's truth in that it's all too easy to eat a lot of food and still wind up malnourished. We're better off than we used to be because most everyone can *afford* food now (food used to be expensive!) but folks still have to educate themselves to be sure they're getting the nutrition they need. "Junk" food is a fairly modern invention and the human subconscious hasn't really had a chance to get used to the notion, yet.

At least in my case the change in restaurant cooking oil had a very unintended effect: The vegetable-oil fried french fries are far inferior, taste disgusting, and caused me to stop eating out years ago. The restaurants also seem to dump loads more salt on stuff to try to compensate for the lack of flavor and it only succeeds in turning the food into a sort of salt lick. Lots more sugar in stuff now too. Yuck! In the early 90's I used to buy fries a couple times a week, at least....I haven't bought any for years and years now.

That being said, I don't drink bottled water. It always tastes like plastic and I'm fairly sure water isn't supposed to taste like plastic.

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If men aren't developing their muscles as well nowadays as they used to it's quite probably due more to changing demands than due to dietary factors. Most modern men simply don't *use* their muscles all that much unless due to deliberate exercise; manual labor just isn't a big deal for most folks. Doing homeowner work with picks and shovels and blue-collar factory work involving heavy lifting has largely been replaced by mechanized assistance and white-collar office work. To put it another way, I bet most men can't ride a horse as well as the typical guy could 100 years ago, either.

Those "manly" victorian-era men? Nope, they were routinely mocked for being foppish dandys by the older men of that time. I look at millennial guys and think all too many of 'em look like a bunch of sorry weaklings, but that's the new norm and they're a reflection of the times just as I'm a reflection of my era.

Can't find anything I really disagree with here as I suspect I am a dinosaur as well.