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Old 06-08-2016, 05:40 AM
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Never much cared for him as fighter. But despite some his "fans" being pretty low brow and classless types. Kimbo generally seemed like a decent, down to earth person. Shame his kids will be without a dad now. Hopefully he made decent bit of money and didn't blow it on whatever. It wouldn't surprise me if roids ended up causing the issues, but it's highly speculative. He was getting up there in age and commonly fighters who are getting long in the tooth opt for little spitball to help compete with the youngsters a bit better.
He had been abusing a gross amount of steroids his entire life. You got eyes, use them.

It wasn't an age thing at all. he was an avid anabolic steroid user since his college football days. Same age as Eddie Guerrero, same cause of death, same physique and history of positive tests for steroid use.

"highly speculative" my fucking ass -- all due respect to your opinion.
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:49 AM
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My eyes don't come with steroid testing program. He was in MMA or a long time and never got busted for roids until just recently.
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:56 AM
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My eyes don't come with steroid testing program. He was in MMA or a long time and never got busted for roids until just recently.
Did you see him during his streetfighting career? He was 40 lbs heavier, billed at around 270. MMA requires testing, he dropped over 50 pounds down to 221 and was a shadow of himself in his UFC debut.

I guess you just aren't all that familiar with his beginnings from college ball to streetfighting. Mostly the streetfighting.

Don't need a steroid test, how about just getting some basic facts about his adult life? His streetfighting career at 270+ was almost 20 years ago. He has been grossly abusing anabolic steroids his entire adult life, as I stated.

Anyone familiar with his "career" (MMA-only nerds can take a hike) is aware of this fact.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:10 AM
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Did you see him during his streetfighting career? He was 40 lbs heavier, billed at around 270. MMA requires testing, he dropped over 50 pounds down to 221 and was a shadow of himself in his UFC debut.

I guess you just aren't all that familiar with his beginnings from college ball to streetfighting. Mostly the streetfighting.

Don't need a steroid test, how about just getting some basic facts about his adult life? His streetfighting career at 270+ was almost 20 years ago. He has been grossly abusing anabolic steroids his entire adult life, as I stated.

Anyone familiar with his "career" (MMA-only nerds can take a hike) is aware of this fact.
Wow, they "billed" him bigger than he was. What a fucking shock, man. That never happens in sports.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4g...gainst-b_sport

apparently thats his first fight and he doesn't look much different than when he was fighting in the UFC to me. I ain't arguing this stupid shit with you, tho.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:13 AM
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Wow, they "billed" him bigger than he was. What a fucking shock, man. That never happens in sports.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4g...gainst-b_sport

apparently thats his first fight and he doesn't look much different than when he was fighting in the UFC to me. I ain't arguing this stupid shit with you, tho.
Nuff said. Thanks for the evidence he looked nothing like his UFC debut.

I am guessing you aren't a fan of the sport of bodybuilding based on your observation you just posted here. It takes a trained eye to see a 30-50lb loss on a 6'4 frame.

We aren't talking about someone of average length and height. Anyway this argument isn't an argument you are just coming off as misinformed and just finished digging.

That video is enough proof that his billed weight, while not accurate, was at least 20-30 lbs heavier than his UFC debut.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:19 AM
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He isn't anywhere near 6'4' . for someone with such amazing omnipotent eyeballs it's hard to believe you actually think that.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:24 AM
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He isn't anywhere near 6'4' . for someone with such amazing omnipotent eyeballs it's hard to believe you actually think that.
215 lb catchweight fight

What now? Official 215lb catchweight, has weighed in on camera during his streetfighting as in the 240's shredded in a gym (A kimbo fan can link a video maybe I don't have it on hand).

Its a done deal dude just give up. Grown men don't slide in lean muscle mass (hes fucking lean, we can agree on that and he always has been) from 215 to 240 in their late 30's early 40's.

He's been abusing steroids his entire adult life and you are just running cover for him like some attorney except you aren't getting paid.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:38 AM
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He didn't "weigh in" as a street fighte. That's all made up. How old ar you to actually blieve something that stupid? Andre the giant was billed as 9 feet tall, 600 pounds.

And even if he lost weight, it would have been the smart thing to do, since one of his biggest problems was he had no gas tank to go for more than one round.

You will lose muscle if you stop lifting so much and do more cardio related shit,

Oh, I could bench about 255 in college and now id be lucky to get 180 off my chest.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:43 AM
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I saw the video where he weighed in, bragging about his weight.

He stepped on the scale.

Sure it was a promo video during his streetfighting days, sure it could have been doctored for hype or whatever and manipulated with angles/weights/calibration. But it looked authentic to me.

I'll give you that we have no official record of his weight pre-MMA posted in this thread...yet...

I'll check the NFL Combine later and see if he entered (I am sure he did, but its possible he didn't). And that will put this speculation about weight to rest for good.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:48 AM
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7NbrfvRw3Rk/hqdefault.jpg

Also, as you se he isn't anywhere near even his supposed 6'2" and certainly not 6'4. That's ortiz who is a legitimate 6'2.
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