Beating a Dead Horse

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

Not sure who Easy_lee is, but all your assumptions and suggestions are good.
Especially like the merge after 3 years. 2/3 of responses are just vexatious FQing.

Maybe instead of demanding or asking for a new red99b Server, we could try to unify the voices and enter a constructive dialogue with Rogean and suggest financial burden sharing.

He does a guestimate how much time he would have to invest and what the overhead costs for maintence would be and the pvp-avid community crowd sources that.

From an employed persons view (Rogean) RnF is just chimps hitting the keyboard, but if we could let money do the talking, maybe thats how we incentivize the progress we seek.

think of all the bluebies who would be lured to a leveled-playing field ..

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would lead to a cycle where the devs had to either continuously release new servers every X time, reset the new server after X time, or just allow the new server to lapse into the same problems.

And besides, we don't have enough players for that.

Yes, a Dev would need to manually come on and release an expansion once a year. Every 3 years they would need to reset a server. I don't see the problem. As far as population goes I don't think that many people would play on the current Red99, or at a minimum the ones raiding would play both and only log on the current server for raids.

The idea is that there is never a wipe which these Devs have stated they will never do.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Server is alive and thriving

[Sear]

Originally Posted by VZ_Xanit K'ven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure who Easy_lee is, but all your assumptions and suggestions are good.
Especially like the merge after 3 years. 2/3 of responses are just vexatious FQing.

Maybe instead of demanding or asking for a new red99b Server, we could try to unify the voices and enter a constructive dialogue with Rogean and suggest financial burden sharing.

He does a guestimate how much time he would have to invest and what the overhead costs for maintence would be and the pvp-avid community crowd sources that.

From an employed persons view (Rogean) RnF is just chimps hitting the keyboard, but if we could let money do the talking, maybe thats how we incentivize the progress we seek.

think of all the bluebies who would be lured to a leveled-playing field ..

I like this too.

I'd rather off myself than manage a server again, but I can throw money at a good cause.

Does this server really have no GM presence now or is that just hyperbole? Did Sirken finally burn out?

[Sear]

I dunno though.

Money talks, yes. This is true.

But giving a demanding community more leverage for "getting what they want" is dicey. There isn't a unified roadmap of changes that are sought after. They don't want to put themselves at the mercy of the whims of players who aren't all on the same page.

When you work/volunteer doing this kind of garbage, what you want is a minimal amount of bitching and complication (i.e., extra work).

[bubur]

sounds like u should just play zek

[maerilith]

#wipeitclean2016

[Tassador]

Wankers

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sear [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like this too.

I'd rather off myself than manage a server again, but I can throw money at a good cause.

Does this server really have no GM presence now or is that just hyperbole? Did Sirken finally burn out?

P99 ain't a charity that's all I'll say

[georgie]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is already a really simple solution that has been brought up many times. They have a 3rd server. Start up a new PvP server identical to Red99 and have it merge with the old Red99 every 3 years.

1 year classic, 1 year kunark, 1 year velious

There are no resets or wipes.

why merge at all is the question