Libertarian Party, why do you FAIL?

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your argument is we don't need any rules or laws or any collective agreements in a society....because everyone instinctively knows the right things to do and will always do them?

Sounds legit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we need planned parenthood to sell live humans to study what's really instinctive amongst "man" without the influence of religion or society. What is the natural instinctive traits of "man."

[Scrapiron]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your argument is we don't need any rules or laws or any collective agreements in a society....because everyone instinctively knows the right things to do and will always do them?

Sounds legit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Congratulations Ivory, your skill in Begging The Question has improved!

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your argument is we don't need any rules or laws or any collective agreements in a society....because everyone instinctively knows the right things to do and will always do them?

Sounds legit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are great buddy. But why you think that Donald trump, Hillary Clinton, or Ted Cruz should be making those rules is beyond me. This isn't a question of abstract philosophy, it's one regarding the nature of a country where children drink lead but we have plenty of money to drop an ordinance on a tribesman anywhere on earth. I'm truly happy for you that you're content with the state of affairs in American politics, I'm simply not. As for instinct, mine tell me that I wasn't meant to accept that the worst people in my society should be elevated to power simply because 75% of my countrymen believe that government has a mandate to whatever it wants because they're too afraid of the consequences of change. Libertarianism isn't a rejection of civility and order; it's a rejection of the idea that the US federal government has any legitimacy when it actively chooses the interests of corporations and Wall Street over those of its citizens.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

America in 1830 is precisely what you would call Libertarian, and yet the people were tremendously civic minded and constantly forming associations where each citizen would work voluntarily to further the public good.

Also had child labor and no worker safety laws and slavery....

The good ol days! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But why you think that Donald trump, Hillary Clinton, or Ted Cruz should be making those rules is beyond me.

Fun fact - the US president doesn't make the laws! Oh my oh my, did I blow your mind? This thread is a fun house of learning right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pokesan]

dont argue with libertarians

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fun fact - the US president doesn't make the laws! Oh my oh my, did I blow your mind? This thread is a fun house of learning right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guess you've never heard of an executive order. The point was that our government is made up of people hardly qualified to make rules governing a society.

See: levels of lead in drinking water in Cleveland and Flint. We can invade countries quite easily but fuck building basic infrastructure

[Scrapiron]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fun fact - the US president doesn't make the laws! Oh my oh my, did I blow your mind? This thread is a fun house of learning right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ivory, it looks like you are confusing rules with laws.

You do realize that the legislative branch cedes a great deal of its rule making to various agencies of the executive branch right?

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dont argue with libertarians

It is like arguing with slow children....who know nothing about the world. lol

"Herpa derpa, know what would be neat? If everyones job was an icecream man!!!!!! And we all just sold each other icecream for food and a living!!" - More legit than libertarianism :P

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so·ci·e·ty
səˈsīədē/
noun
1.
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.


gov·ern·ment
ˈɡəvər(n)mənt/
noun
1.
the governing body of a nation, state, or community.


Learn ....what....words....mean.....

mo·ron
ˈmôrˌän/
nouninformal
a stupid person.
synonyms: fool, idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, clod; More