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05-12-2016, 12:03 AM
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2) My point is that you would be better off, statistically, being white than getting 100 free SAT points. White people often see this the other way around and feel like victims of discrimination. You want to zero in on the one part where black people get a small bonus and ignore the entire downside leading up to that. 3)The fact that you bring this up is puzzling unless you are claiming that whites are biologically smarter than blacks. Which we have demonstrated not to be true. | |||
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05-12-2016, 12:55 AM
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I personally am against all forms of discrimination, whether they target Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, men, women, republicans, democrats, gays, straights, young people, old people, etc etc. So I am against Jim Crow and affirmative action equally. I find it rather amusing that our government, which outlaws discrimination based on race, does in fact itself discriminate based on race. Orwell is living large in modern society. Or was that Huxley? I forget. | |||||
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05-12-2016, 11:30 AM
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In Sweden, they weren't always a social democratic country. They used to have big inequalities like us, until they pushed too far and there was an electoral revolution -- and then democratic socialists were voted into power and introduced universal healthcare etc. So people wonder why. Why would the working classes come together and create a better society for themselves in Sweden but not the US. The reason we came up with, is because they are culturally/ethnically uniform. Therefore, politicians can't get most voters to vote against "welfare queens" and the "takers" as easy. In short, its a lot easier to split the non-wealthy vote when there all worried about thugs raping their daughters and hitting people the minute we talk about free college (see above). The reason this countries rightwing wants to talk about Russia is obvious. Russia was a shitshow before communism, it was a shitshow during communism, and its a shitshow now. So if they can pivot the conversation to Russia -- a country that had a violent revolution an and instituted a single party dictatorship -- they derail the real conversation about why is our coverage worse than other advanced countries. Soviet Russia is an example of Communism -- which even then, was considered a seperate ideology from "trade-union socialism" (what they have in Germany/Sweden). Lenin lead the Russian Revolution based on the writings of Karl Marx -- but he changed Marx's view quite a bit. Rather than the spontaneous uprising of workers Marx talked about. Lenin decided that there needed to be an elite "vanguard" to educate all the factory workers and lead the revolution. He turned a populist ideology into an elitist one. Lenin forcefully argued against (and killed) people arguing for a democratic socialist system. It kind of went downhill from there from a human right view point. Stalin (after Lenin) killed millions. Although we never really admit in the US, it was pretty god damn amazing that a country as backward as Russia was after WW1, somehow managed to surpass the US scientifically. But everyone agrees its not worth killing millions over. Your comparing multi-party democracies to a single party dictatorships. There is no comparison -- there different systems. One is authoritarian and believes the government should create bureaucracies to allocate the resources according to "needs" (in reality according to politics). The other is a democracy with a capitalist economy that uses socialist ideas to redistribute some of the money away from the top and toward the bottom. | |||
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05-11-2016, 06:33 PM
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Quit looking at race and start looking at culture, which is what really drives success and failure. That's the major shortcoming behind the whole 'white privilege' meme, this video, and these posts. Judge someone by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. What you are describing are cultural attributes that are conducive to financial planning and educational attainment, not a systematic framework of oppression meant to keep whites in power and hold the brown man down.
I mean, let's start talking about Asian privilege. They do better than whites at all these things. | ||
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05-11-2016, 07:05 PM
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It's not that blacks are stupider than whites. It's that ghetto culture they have (which makes them stupider than whites). Once they start acting like white people (the superior way to act) things will be fine. There isn't widespread racism anymore -- its just a bunch of people not taking responsibility for themselves. So when you see someone acting black -- don't feel guilty for thinking there stupid -- they are. And it's their stupid culture's fault. A lot of this shit about Asain kids is true..but taken a little far. Just because its possible that culture can play into student success -- doesn't mean its the best way to understand the differences in student success. Asain kids come from 2 parent households that stress academics their whole life often....should that be every household in America? Is that the standard that were all failures for not meeting? One of the big reasons Asians do better is because their parent are way more likely to completely support them financially throughout the endeavor. They also have a habit of being the son of a middle class people from their country that are only classified as poor because they just got here. A lot of Asians here didn't come from the bottom of their societies, they came from the middle and are ambitious. | |||
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05-11-2016, 07:14 PM
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The book I'm working on is probably going to be a big seller based off people like Juris and Lune.
"Free college" is not a popular idea, its populist, but not popular, yet. I am gathering a lot of good ideas so I hope this discussion goes on for another page. I need more socialist handout input in regards to handing armed thugs and cutthroat rapists access to my son and daughter's college dormitory. Say no to the 3rd world.
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05-11-2016, 07:18 PM
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05-11-2016, 06:40 PM
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White or not. I don't want violent elements around any Universities for my future sons and daughters. College is supposed to be a place of learning and enlightenment. My state school was bad enough and I have a personal story to tell about it. Many personal stories. I could write a book, and I might sell the book to a publisher to be honest. I think I could take an active role in telling the other side of scholarships and free college and probably participate actively in stopping the push for free college. Many many people slip through the cracks and are attending college for the wrong reasons. Free college would just increase violence on campus. Period. I'm probably going to draw up an outline tonight. So thanks Juris if this actually comes out alright. I just need a good theme for the book and a good title, the stories and perspective and analysis I can offer (along with supporting research) would be enough to make it a captivating read. Vote no on turning college into a 3rd world experience.
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05-11-2016, 08:18 PM
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