Been years (3.5 exact) since I played blue but could you guys expain this (gif image)

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a little fuzzy on when specifics happened,. was fat before or during this with forsaken and asgard?

I recall some kinda drama about that, then it died down and idk

The current guild that has most the ex-Rampage that didn't quit, is Awakened (get it). They are mostly from the guild Taken, however. This is because Taken and Rampage were allies. They were previously allied with Forsaken and Asgard for Kael, Yelinak and CT.

Rampage tried a lot of shit before they quit this server. FAT rotated items evenly between guilds, but Taken was not part of ToV. Rampage offered them 2nd pick off ToV items...even though they didn't need the help in ToV and Taken functioned as a drag on the highly lawyerized environment.

So a few of us made fun of them for being a 2nd class guild in the alliance. It caused problems for us on the three targets where we were previously dominating.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a non BS answer:

Rampage was indisputably the number 1 guild when Velious launched. The entire history of this server is mostly 1 guild monopolies overtaking each other. That being said, Rampage looked particularly impossible because they had an extremely well organized raid force full of hardcore players.

Detoxx started another raid guild to challenge Rampage, named Forsaken. They had some success at first, but predictable problems set in. Most people that really want pixils are bandwagoners by nature. They stack on the guild that's most powerful -- uninterested in the possible benefits of being a core member of rising guild (risk payoff). Thus, Forsaken bleed members to Rampage because they were getting the biggest targets and most dragons.

Then a "casual guild" named Asgard (a lot of the core wasn't casual) teamed with Forsaken, so both had the numbers to challenge Rampage. At this point the Rampage core was burning out a bit (the leadership had a history of this); by contrast, Forsaken and Asgard had been cockblocked all Velious and were hungry. We (Forsaken/Asgard) begain to win...A lot.

After something like our 4th out 6 Vulaks, and we downed 2 out 3 warders in ST, the Rampage leadership had enough. They called a sleeper raid to block Detoxx (mostly) from getting Sceptor of Destuction. This is a BiS warrior item I'm pretty sure, and there were other BiS items no one but Rampage had, that no longer drop.

The guild leader of Rampage was named Hokushin, and the gif is him flipping Detoxx off with two Scepters of Destruction...I think at least...could be a reference to some Iksar warrior I'm unfamilar with. The msg are a reference to Detoxx's tendency to get irate when he thought Hoku was trying to pull on over on him over some lawyerquest bs (which is did and attempted to do multiple times).

Now Forsaken and Asgard merged into Aftermath, with the casual holdouts staying in Asgard. Detoxx ran Hoku off the server (the second time), but Hoku did awake the sleeper, deny him gear, and now claims to have won Velious...or at least I'm sure he sees it that way.

does it feel good to lie?

[Fanguru]

Detoxx ran Hoku off the server (the second time), but Hoku did awake the sleeper, deny him gear, and now claims to have won Velious...or at least I'm sure he sees it that way.

So much for the non-bs answer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tycoon]

Out of the ST key dragons killed by the, fair, FAT alliance, how many ST keys did Taken get?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Tycoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of the ST key dragons killed by the, fair, FAT alliance, how many ST keys did Taken get?

We rotated items between the 3 guilds....its just a fact. The only key mob was Yelinak. I'm not even positive if you guys went for the keys then. So for all I know you got none....I don't see why anyone should care about that give rats ass. How much ST loot did Rampage give ya?

[LostCause]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rampage woke the sleeper. Ruining Velious for everyone on blue.

shits classic.

[Swifty]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a non BS answer:
Hoku.. and now claims to have won Velious...or at least I'm sure he sees it that way.

i assure you, nobody playing high end P99 is winning.

[Legday]

The iksar in the gif is Cucumbers. Hoku is a human.

It went like this...

Rampage vs. Forsaken
Rampage is on top going in to Velious. Forsaken has some success but ultimately bleeds loot hungry & impatient members to Rampage. Rampage thrives for the first couple of months of Velious and gets 40-50 Sleepers keys while Forsaken only has 1 or 2.

Rampage vs. Forsaken/Asgard (all targets)
Forsaken and Asgard team up and start putting up a good fight in ToV but Rampage is still getting 80% of the targets. Slowly the dynamic shifts towards 50/50. Rampage is still dominating ST keys with F/A lucky to get 1 or 2 out of 5 each week. Rampage killing Vulak every week.

Rampage vs. Forsaken/Asgard/Taken (outside ToV)
FAT has lots of success on the mobs outside of ToV. F/A inside of ToV have started to take ~50% of the targets with some weeks being even better than that. F/A is hungry and Rampage appears to start burning out. F/A is killing Vulaks. Rules change inside ToV so that you can't spam click mobs on their spawn point and now have to coth and insta pull.

Rampage/Taken vs. Forsaken/Asgard
Rampage offers Taken a better deal than they were getting in FAT, including NToV killing. Dynamic inside ToV stays near 50/50. F/A has about 20 ST keys at this point. 15 keyed F/A members sneak in to ST one night and kill 2 warders, which I dont think Rampage thought we could do.

Sleeper awakened.
There is a server repop about 1 week after F/A kills warders, and Rampage/Taken goes for targets outside of ToV while F/A cleans up inside. F/A kills Vulak just as Ramp/Taken are getting back and link the Gharn's in /ooc. A couple of hours later Rampage and a few keyed Taken members head to ST and kill all 4 warders thus waking the sleeper.

Side note: I think the warders being killed by F/A and the gharns dropping might have contributed a little bit to Rampage blowing it up...but more likely them dominating nearly uncontested for 2-3 months in Velious and then going through 3-4 months of serious competition burned out their playmakers. It had to end at some point. Nobody can do what they were doing forever.

remaining Rampage/Taken form Awakened.
Mostly Taken members. A bunch of Rampage that took a break after the awakening have also come back to join them as well.

Awakened vs. Forsaken/Asgard
50/50 for awhile. Some weeks guild a wins, some weeks guild b wins.

Forsaken/Asgard form Aftermath
Friends/pals/etc.

Awakened vs. Aftermath
See: Awakened vs. Forsaken/Asgard

This is all within 7 or 8 months.

[Freakish]

Side note: I think the warders being killed by F/A and the gharns dropping might have contributed a little bit to Rampage blowing it up...but more likely them dominating nearly uncontested for 2-3 months in Velious and then going through 3-4 months of serious competition burned out their playmakers. It had to end at some point. Nobody can do what they were doing forever.

It was one more thing to track.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Swifty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i assure you, nobody playing high end P99 is winning.

The truth shall set you free...

I sometimes wonder what sort of undiagnosed mental disability I have that I still play EQ for hours a day on P99. Its either some form of self hatred, obsessive compulsive disorder, mild Asperger, or an unfulfilled need to validate myself through artificial accomplishments.

But whatever the case is, I will be destroying the undead menace in Karnor's Keep tonight and will perfectly content in my life