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Old 02-17-2016, 02:52 PM
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Not sure if trolling, but with Velious release many more 1h options became available and are readily available/relatively cheap. 12/20 and 13/20 1hs > most available 2hs. There is a reason they added 2h buffs in later Velious
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:34 PM
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what the hell is 1hs i keep thinking its a typo but this guy keeps typing it
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:58 PM
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I was thinking of using Knuckle Dusters, 14/28 for 1H Blunt but I'm not seeing anything decent for hand-to-hand until quested items.

For hand-to-hand, is it best to go weaponless?
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:07 PM
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i believe hes using 1hs as though he implies 1 hander(s) and not 1 hand slash
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:40 AM
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1h's (my bad)
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:43 PM
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Not sure if trolling, but with Velious release many more 1h options became available and are readily available/relatively cheap. 12/20 and 13/20 1hs > most available 2hs. There is a reason they added 2h buffs in later Velious
Where is a new player getting these 12/20 and 13/20 weapons? Are they giving away Sleeper's Keys to every toon now? His best option is to use Wu's 1 handers and then switch to Wu's quivering for the majority of his leveling experience.

The reason they added 2handed buffs later is because they had no idea how to balance their own game. Just because Verant did something all those years ago doesn't mean it was the correct decision. Stop spouting misinformation.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwL...JtaGVsanM/edit

Here is an outdated chart (only Kunark weapons) with some DPS information on 2handers vs 1handers. In most scenarios the 2HB is better than the 1HB and this chart does not take into account the weapon swap trick. Weapon swapping allows you to dual wield your 2hander with your fist as the secondary .

2 handers are vastly superior.
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well I guess I'm done trying to convince you, do whatever you want op, it really doesn't make a difference lol

and Elzhi, do me a favor and log in, run around, and view what weapons monks are using. to me trading the versatility of using pulling tools is not worth an added punch(or two)
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and Elzhi, do me a favor and log in, run around, and view what weapons monks are using. to me trading the versatility of using pulling tools is not worth an added punch(or two)
What are you even talking about? If I need to use items I just stop weapon swapping, do what I need to do then resume weapon swapping. This is a strange deflection.

That's great that people are running around with 1 handers, it doesn't mean that they know why they are using it or have done the math like I have. There could be other factors for using 1 handers, what if they wanted to push a caster? What if they get stats from their 1 handers and need those stats to make a harder pull easier. The only scenario I am speaking to is DPS. You make it seem like I have made it out to be that you should only use a 2hander all the time, and I only have claimed that tstaff is better than epic/sos. You claimed 2hand damage is equal to 1hand damage. That is pure misinformation and it does not need to be spread. 1hand damage is not equal to 2hand damage.

You are completely locked in to your wrong way of thinking and refuse to admit you are wrong even when presented with overwhelming evidence of you being incorrect.

Do me a favor and reroll.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:32 PM
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I was thinking of using Knuckle Dusters, 14/28 for 1H Blunt but I'm not seeing anything decent for hand-to-hand until quested items.

For hand-to-hand, is it best to go weaponless?
http://wiki.project1999.com/Master_Wu's_Trance_Stick x2

Until level 20

Then use:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Wu's_Quivering_Staff

Up until you complete your:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Celestial_Fists + http://wiki.project1999.com/Stave_of_shielding or http://wiki.project1999.com/Scepter_of_Mastery

Continue using above until you obtain a:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Tranquil_Staff


If you get really tired of the wu's quivering before you get your epic, you can get a peacebringer but you will immediately ditch it once you get your epic so I think it would be wiser to put the cash of that towards buying a t-staff.
I promise, do not worry about leveling your hand to hand until you get your epic. It will max unbelievably fast when your fist turns into a 9/16 with the epic.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:58 PM
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I appreciate all the help, assistance and arguing and will take everyone's advice...

What about Monk quests? Are there any certain quests for Monks that I should do or not do? I know I have awhile to go before getting any of the sweet items but I figure I would ask to plan ahead...
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