Will Project 1999 Source Ever Be Released? - Page 2

Ravager · #1 02-09-2016, 01:30 PM

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If utopia is a single player game or a private guild server at which point it is just raid instances with no one in the common areas.

You say potato and I say potato.

immaterial · #2 02-09-2016, 01:33 PM

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If utopia is a single player game or a private guild server at which point it is just raid instances with no one in the common areas.

Plus, no reason to RMT if you can just #summonitem and #level 60.

it's no different than a private Minecraft server. i can give myself whatever i want, but i still play Survival because that's what i think is fun. however, by hosting my own server, i can add customizations or modifications to suit the exact tastes of me and my friends.

trite · #3 02-09-2016, 01:57 PM

When I go and look at the logic in the zone.cpp from EQ Emu master branch it's readily apparent how much work was put into p99 to make it unique...It would take someone on the project to betray the other members' interests or for them to collectively stop caring and be feeling generous at the same time for us to ever see the source code.

immaterial · #4 02-09-2016, 02:01 PM

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When I go and look at the logic in the zone.cpp from EQ Emu master branch it's readily apparent how much work was put into p99 to make it unique...It would take someone on the project to betray the other members' interests or for them to collectively stop caring and be feeling generous at the same time for us to ever see the source code.

it depends on philosophies. the PEQ code that P1999 is based on is open source. it just comes down to how the devs/admins feel about it. it doesn't have to be "betrayal", many large-scale projects are open sourced.

Daywolf · #5 02-09-2016, 02:13 PM

meh p99 didn't start out as an opensource db, so no worries at all. Now there was this other emu, a space game that shut down, and the emu devs ran the project opensource with no worries about others opening servers. Lots of people donated to the project considerably, and everyone played there.

But then there was a changing of the guard, a whole other set of devs took over the project, said oh no we cant allow that and closed the project code/db, started talking about making money off of premium content. See now that was screwed.

But p99 has always been a closed dev project, no tricks so to contribute to one day having your own server. Just enjoy the ride imo.

Troxx · #6 02-09-2016, 03:03 PM

The server is far from finished. There's a lot of folks not willing to neckbeard and poopsock who would and will gladly step to take down content when the raid scene is a little less toxic. The game as we know it stops at velious. Rampage has burnt out. Sooner or later the rest of 'hardcore' folks on the server will get tired of waking up at 2am when the bat phone rings.

When they burn out, content will still be there and some of the more casual raid guilds will get their chance to cut their teeth.

solutionx · #7 02-09-2016, 04:54 PM

There's no reason to do it. You use "open source" like it's some kind of answer here. We have this one most populated server, p99, and you have a list of other custom EQEmu servers. These people also put hundreds if not thousands of hours into coding their own little worlds. Why would any of them release their source code and adopt an open source development paradigm? Specially in the case of p99, where they're doing just fine on their own developing the world, adding content, and fixing bugs.

I see more bad coming out of this than good if it ever happened, since I doubt any actual helpful or meaningful contributions would be made. And perhaps a split between the majority of the population, depending on what server they think is less nerfed or more "reasonable" or whatever the case may be.

Of course, they should already know this. No.

immaterial · #8 02-09-2016, 05:09 PM

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There's no reason to do it. You use "open source" like it's some kind of answer here. We have this one most populated server, p99, and you have a list of other custom EQEmu servers. These people also put hundreds if not thousands of hours into coding their own little worlds. Why would any of them release their source code and adopt an open source development paradigm? Specially in the case of p99, where they're doing just fine on their own developing the world, adding content, and fixing bugs.

it's not about "doing just fine", the P1999 team is doing great things. it's about sharing works and giving to a community. P1999 very likely wouldn't exist if PEQ weren't open source. many large projects go open source for a variety of reasons, from economical to philosophical. this isn't about the P1999 team owing anyone anything, or about open source somehow helping the team or making P1999 better; i am just asking if the P1999 team plans to go this route at some point in the foreseeable future, as many community projects do.

solutionx · #9 02-09-2016, 05:11 PM

How would it make it better?

immaterial · #10 02-09-2016, 05:16 PM

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How would it make it better?

i specifically said this wasn't about making it better, which is a response to your post where you make it sound like the only reason to go open source is to solve a problem.