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Old 12-19-2015, 08:54 PM
Safon Safon is offline
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To everyone complaining Kylo got beat too easily

1. He was gut shot by a bowcaster shortly before the fight occurred

2. He is only partially trained, as indicated by Snoke's order to bring him at the end of the movie to complete his training

3. He takes a further hit to the shoulder before cutting down Finn, and is further injured when he faces Rey. Unsure why he didn't use the force on Finn, maybe just wanted to put the guy in his place the old fashioned way, maybe just a dumb plot device.

4. Rey is almost certainly Luke's daughter, and thus belongs to the immediate family of force sensitive prodigies in the universe. Kylo does as well, but Rey is Luke's direct offspring, Kylo is Leia's, and Rey is likely some kind of prodigy like her father and his father before him, unlike Kylo. Rey may also have received some kind of training in the past, she clearly has some kind of mental block in place.

5. As mentioned, Finn and Rey have at least some level of combat training.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:20 PM
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2. He is only partially trained, as indicated by Snoke's order to bring him at the end of the movie to complete his training.
Only partially trained...
Put in charge of your new empire's most valuable asset.

Pick one please!

Why it's Star Wars cursed with such bad plot?
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:24 PM
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Only partially trained...
Put in charge of your new empire's most valuable asset.

Pick one please!

Why it's Star Wars cursed with such bad plot?
I believe General Hux is in charge, he and Kylo have a similar sort of setup to Vader and that imperial admiral before Vader winds up answering only to the emperor.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:39 PM
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Tarkin was clearly above Vader. Hux is equal to Kylo.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:44 PM
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Unsure why he didn't use the force on Finn, maybe just wanted to put the guy in his place the old fashioned way, maybe just a dumb plot device.
Because there would have been widespread riots if the black guy died because that would be racist unless kylo was black also.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:47 PM
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Because there would have been widespread riots if the black guy died because that would be racist unless kylo was black also, in which case it, like all black on black violence, would be completely ignored.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:49 PM
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:48 PM
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2. He is only partially trained, as indicated by Snoke's order to bring him at the end of the movie to complete his training
He sure didn't look partially trained in the beginning, when he was stopping blaster shots and such.
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:01 PM
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He sure didn't look partially trained in the beginning, when he was stopping blaster shots and such.
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In that scene he has not been shot in the gut with a bowcaster, nor is he emotionally unstable from recently murdering his father.
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:06 PM
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In that scene he has not been shot in the gut with a bowcaster, nor is he emotionally unstable from recently murdering his father.
He also wasn't up against a flawless strong independent Mary Sue clad in plot armor.

Interestingly, it's Kylo Ren's flaws that make him the only compelling character in the movie. He's the only multidimensional character who has his inner conflicts and motivations explored at any more than the most superficial level.
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