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Old 11-23-2010, 03:52 PM
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I didn't level my live enchanter until 08 but they definitely are powerful soloers on live with proper charming.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:48 PM
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Enchanters cannot efficiently charm solo on this server without a lot of cha (200s) due to the mechanics. That said, cha gear is still fairly cheap to get so charm soloing is definitely viable.

The other soloing option (hasted pet/slowed mob) is also viable but not as good as other pet classes. I think that enchanters need to do >50% damage or else xp is nerfed though - someone care to confirm?
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:50 PM
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I think that enchanters need to do >50% damage or else xp is nerfed though - someone care to confirm?
I don't think this is true for any class that can have a pet (charmed or not); you just need to do one point of damage to get full exp.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:52 PM
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I don't think this is true for any class that can have a pet (charmed or not); you just need to do one point of damage to get full exp.
Confirmed. If a PC does any damage, there will be no penalty for having the pet do the rest.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:52 PM
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ENCs are actually very good soloers, I think. Their pets are underrated. They may be better soloers than druids because of more free damage (pet) and clarity, hence less downtime. Plus troll form gives a ton of HP regen. This is not even speaking of charm.
From my experience back in the day, ENCs can but they are not the most efficient soloers. Pet is some free damage but you need to toss in a Tash Languid Pace, root and DOT to keep the mob rooted and dying. Even then every other fight you'll have a root break to deal with and an occasional add. At lower level pet soloing means sitting every fight. At mid levels it improves but at that point kiting mobs way out strips ENC in efficiency.

The at mid-levels with decent +CHA gear charm soloing becomes doable and improves an ENCs solo play. There will be an annoying run of breaks leading to a CR, so it carries a high risk. Still I have fond memories of charm soloing the giant guards in Velious.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:01 PM
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From my experience back in the day, ENCs can but they are not the most efficient soloers. Pet is some free damage but you need to toss in a Tash Languid Pace, root and DOT to keep the mob rooted and dying. Even then every other fight you'll have a root break to deal with and an occasional add. At lower level pet soloing means sitting every fight. At mid levels it improves but at that point kiting mobs way out strips ENC in efficiency.

The at mid-levels with decent +CHA gear charm soloing becomes doable and improves an ENCs solo play. There will be an annoying run of breaks leading to a CR, so it carries a high risk. Still I have fond memories of charm soloing the giant guards in Velious.
Swishahouse seems to perform surprisingly well sharing the tanking between himself and his dagger-pet in troll form in his 30s. I might be mistaken, but troll form seems to give way more regen than it should.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:18 PM
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Swishahouse seems to perform surprisingly well sharing the tanking between himself and his dagger-pet in troll form in his 30s. I might be mistaken, but troll form seems to give way more regen than it should.
That would put me to shame if I was saying ENCs were unable to solo. I am not. What I am saying is DRU, WIZ, MAG and NEC, are more efficient soloers overall. An ENC can do well at soloing but a DRU at high level, for example, can quad kite. At the same level an ENC can't match that efficiency. Based on my imperfect memory, I would have to burn down my pet after two or three kills, med and repeat.

Troll form is awesome.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:14 PM
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That would put me to shame if I was saying ENCs were unable to solo. I am not. What I am saying is DRU, WIZ, MAG and NEC, are more efficient soloers overall. An ENC can do well at soloing but a DRU at high level, for example, can quad kite. At the same level an ENC can't match that efficiency. Based on my imperfect memory, I would have to burn down my pet after two or three kills, med and repeat.

Troll form is awesome.
The thing about druids at high levels (from what I hear, anyway), though, is that they have to med for 10 minutes between their quad pulls. I feel like people don't take that into account when they talk about how good soloers druids are. Moreover, I hear that pets (including ENC pets) are overpowered on p99. Now, maybe even with that, they're more efficient than ENCs. I don't know, I don't have a high level druid or enc. I'm not trying to "put you to shame" or pick a fight; I'm just having a discussion based on what I've heard around the forums and from p99 buddies. Clam down.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:41 PM
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The thing about druids at high levels (from what I hear, anyway), though, is that they have to med for 10 minutes between their quad pulls
This and more importantly, have fun finding 4 mobs on a consistant basis at high levels.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:18 PM
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I don't see the QQ in having to med up from zero to max after killing FOUR mobs. I'd be happy if I only used 25% mana on my wizard or shaman after killing one mob.
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