Newbie question!

[Grod]

I will always give people the same courtesy and respect that I want returned to me, at the end of the day this is not a pvp server and everyone is a fellow human being. I just hope that people use common sense and courtesy in their dealings with other players but the few bad apples out there make it so you at least have to be knowledgeable as to what the GM's will and will not enforce in terms of handing a camp over. I would never try to steal another person's camp on a wipe, but there are obviously other players that will do it.

[xshayla701]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...mps%2C+defined

Originally Posted by Xzerion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp. If you have no competition in the zone, you are more than welcome to hold as many as you like. The moment another party wants to claim a camp and you are "farming" multiple, you must decide which camp you want and forfeit the ones someone else is interested in. We still expect players to use the courtesy camp check before zerging a room. If there is a full spawn of mobs in a camp room up I think that would be considered not camped. How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.

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3. The efreeti spawn kind of covers both of these situations, with this camp in particular if you are not at the spawn and another group arrives, you lose it.

4. In order to hold a camp, the player or group must be able to demonstrate the ability to hold the camp without further help.
*Example* An enchanter and lvl 40 ranger are in a group. The enchanter leaves to go kill frenzy and the ranger stay at lord. In this instance both camps are not considered held as the ranger could not survive this camp on his own without the enchanter.

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Failure to comply and respect these rules will be viewed as disruptive behavior and players will be subject to disciplinary action. Please dont let it come to this.

Obviously the .... is where I shortened the post.

If I am correct, if there are people in your group still there (as in the cleric/monk example), you have the camp. However there's always gonna be an asshole who tries to take the camp, and if no one is there when that person arrives I think technically he has the right to it? The nice thing to do, though, would be to give the group the camp back. Generally GMs don't want to be involved in something like this that can be resolved with common courtesy so I would say to try to work it out between players before typing /petition.

[Dr4z3r]

One time here on P99, I was trio-ing the entrance to Paw, but we got overwhelmed and our mage died before he could zone out. With a third of our group gone (and, let's face it, the most OP third of our group in that context), we were obviously unable to keep clearing, and he was bound in Nek for no reason except to aggravate the rest of the world. Anyways, when another group popped in to try and start that camp, I let them know that we were still claiming it, and just waiting on our mage to get back. They obviously weren't happy about it, but they let us have the camp.

Then our Mage LD'd and never came back and I felt bad about it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Messianic]

This is a lot of text for a rather simple issue.

Plainly, there are no "rules" in the strict sense of the word (a means of enforcement, etc). There are gentleman's agreements that apply to most people on the server because they are self-evident and expedient rules (the ones xshayla posted). But note that there are people who will break them, and they're probably not going to be banned for it unless it becomes wildly excessive.

Beyond that, you need to operate within the frame of practical reason. Anything else will just stress you out and overcomplicate things, and probably eventually lead you into R/F/NSFW, which I don't recommend.

[Zarniwooop]

If you have a shred of decency, you let them recover and get back to it.

If you don't, you will justify being a jerk with lots of words and waving of protruding body parts.

Any other answer is a bucket of dung.

[Raavak]

Give them a reasonable chance to rez and get setup. Act mature, be an adult.

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Act mature, be an adult.

no

[Grod]

I had taco bell tonight, respect!

[Trademaster]

Do you really need to check on the letter of the "law" on camps? You don't know how to be an adult and share things?

Sure there are a few highly contested camps, and the people that have them claimed will go nigh insane if you try to move in on them, but for the most part, live and let die. If a camp is taken move on to the next spot, You might find that the "best way to grind" isn't a definitive work and there are other options where you can have fun.

Remember this isn't WoW, where the game doesn't start until you are max level. The fun is right now, max level is actually kind of sparse for things to do.

[Grod]

I have never and will never cite "rules" to try to gain a camp from someone but other people do, and from what I've seen, quite frequently on this server. People need to learn to be respectful of other players and not try to abuse rules to gain an advantage.