What's the point?

[Dalven]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it HILARIOUS that 3 different guilds all of which have enough members to do their own raids somehow find it necessary to do 2-3 way joint raids just to compete with BDA.

Guilds joint raid to compete with Rampage, not BDA. Excepting VP of course but you guys don't seem that bothered about it anymore /shrug.

[Baler]

I'm afraid to join any guild.

[maestrom]

In a word, drama.

Some people are adults and can deal with each other in a professional and friendly manner in order to take down big targets through jolly cooperation.

None of these people play EQ.

Raid guilds push themselves, and each other, to the limit of what is possible in this game. When you play at that level, people get stressed out and start to get a little cranky with each other. When people rub each other the wrong way and have to deal with each other lots (through guild chat and other social aspects of guilds), it creates drama.

Drama doesn't really matter, except it tends to get on other peoples' nerves. And since there are no adults in this game, people behave badly. They RMT on guildie's accounts. They talk shit about each other. The ragequit the guild and cause a ton of problems on the forums. This takes attention away from pixels.

Forming an alliance with another guild to get to the full zergforce is one way that guilds can deal with these social/non-pixel issues. If I really hate you, but you and I are in different guilds and have to go out of our ways to talk to each other, then we're less likely to get irritated with each other and distract our officers.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a word, drama.

Some people are adults and can deal with each other in a professional and friendly manner in order to take down big targets through jolly cooperation.

None of these people play EQ.

Raid guilds push themselves, and each other, to the limit of what is possible in this game. When you play at that level, people get stressed out and start to get a little cranky with each other. When people rub each other the wrong way and have to deal with each other lots (through guild chat and other social aspects of guilds), it creates drama.

Drama doesn't really matter, except it tends to get on other peoples' nerves. And since there are no adults in this game, people behave badly. They RMT on guildie's accounts. They talk shit about each other. The ragequit the guild and cause a ton of problems on the forums. This takes attention away from pixels.

Forming an alliance with another guild to get to the full zergforce is one way that guilds can deal with these social/non-pixel issues. If I really hate you, but you and I are in different guilds and have to go out of our ways to talk to each other, then we're less likely to get irritated with each other and distract our officers.

And then...

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hehe. I've said many times that I don't raid here. But the reason I don't raid is that I don't want to participate in the FTE-train grieffest.

I participate in the camp-money-loot sockfest. Doing a 16 hour sock doesn't bug me at all. That's what netflix, juggs, and fear respawns are for.

I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then...



I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

You know. Retracted.

I intended my comments to come off as self-deprecating more than anything else. If I could edit I would.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And then...



I know this in Rants'n'Flames, but just don't throw mud on people whom you really have no interaction with. It gives you and the people you don't know bad name. We all have jobs/obligations, families, and there are those who hold themselves to a professional standard. And guess what... people in professional settings also get upset. Hell, they might even yell at you and call you bad names. It might get so bad that you will get sued.

This is a community. The more people realize this and treat each other with respect without trying to shit on other people everything would be better. Let the competition remain in game in lieu of bold statements of disrespect.

I watch Hoku/Cucumbers argue with Detoxx/Unbrella about nearly every single contested mob for DAYS. Literally days. LawyerQuest is a thing, and it's an absolutely crucial aspect to bleeding edge content raids, and that makes me sad.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I watch Hoku/Cucumbers argue with Detoxx/Unbrella about nearly every single contested mob for DAYS. Literally days. LawyerQuest is a thing, and it's an absolutely crucial aspect to bleeding edge content raids, and that makes me sad.

While I am not a fan of Lawyerquest and I don't participate in it within Forsaken; to me I understand this as a good level of competition on this server. This is what Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken all have stated they want multiple times. At time we disagree but there are those time when respect is given.

Last night was one of those examples. There are a many skilled players who play this game who take time to really invest in the mechanics.

Also, what would you expect? We are playing a dated video game mostly anonymously. We all want pixels and to improve our characters. Would you not want your leadership to fight for you and your raid pals?

Take a break. Look at the bigger picture. To me, Project 1999 has become more and more successful. With the hope of more events, a competitive raid scene, and new servers in the future, I hope you share my sentiments.

[am0n]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last night was one of those examples.

Mind sharing? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bleeding edge content raids

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[Legday]

Dalv, BDA thinks they're still relevant .

Asgard/Forsaken combined are roughly the same numbers as Rampage in NToV.

Asgard/Taken combined are roughly the same numbers as BDA in VP.

We don't "just compete" with BDA. We "barely notice they are in zone".