Question: Casinos

[Lagaidh]

Folks articulated what I posted for but didn't realize it. It's the spam...

I used to insta-ignore too, but I figure- what if I'd like to meet that person away from their "job". I'd need to be able to hear them

And, folks, you all are quick to jump on someone for an opinion. I'm not disparaging anyone running a casino. I too am a big proponent of do what you like; especially if it's within the rules.

I just hate the spam too.

Thanks for the folks responding. Wondered if I was the only one that felt this way.

[Kraftwerk]

Wow who does 800+ odds. When I intermittently run a casino the odds fluctuate but have settled on the following:

Beat the Dealer - You Random 1-10, then I do. You beat me and win 2x, tie goes to dealer. Most people enjoy this one.

Random 1k - You do a Random 1000, 0-25 reroll, 625-975 win 2x, 975-1000 win 3x.

Pick a Number - You choose a single number 1-10. I random 1-10. If it's your number win 6x. Least played.

As far as setting up and location, Shady Swashbuckler is best since it is away from majority and don't bother anyone. Also it is well known spot so you can advertise it in /shout and people know where to go. I've had good and bad streaks. One night raked in 2kpp in 15 minutes, then lost 3kpp in 5 minutes. The thrill of being the bank!

PS - Richgirl always had like 8 different games to choose from and was the most reputable casino on this server.

[Kavanah]

My Casino yields pretty low spam unless I have multiple people playing in which case I take it to tells. The only thing that shows up is the /rans and the once every 4-5 min /shout for advertise. I also offer secure free transfers for people and am hosting a raffle as well as intend on hosting other giveaways and such. Its just some extra fun to break from the monotony of grinding exp.

Also, EC tunnel is filled with people who are either 1) afk 2) providing their own spam of selling or buying stuff 3) or are just hanging around and don't mind seeing the random's even coming to watch sometimes.

[Darklake]

Originally Posted by Lyrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, they were banned on live at some point...

Wasn't that so they could add their own Shadowhaven money sink to get plat out of the game? Besides, with Live being swamped with real cash, they had to be seen as doing something. Here, there's no real cash, it's just plain and simple in-game gambling.

Perhaps as a simple play nice policy :-

1) The dealers invite the players to a group, so all the "game" spam stays out of the general area.
2) Those that don't want to see the invite spam, stick the dealer on ignore.
3) Have a chat window for /random, and minimise it.
4) Have the dealers move to the back of the Shady Swashbuckler area, out of trader's earshot.

Take some steps to sort the problem yourself, before banging the petition button.

[Rhambuk]

I don't think anyone is banging on a petition button...

I think its a little unreasonable to move into an area and expect all the people around you that don't like it to move away or create new windows to accommodate them. When they could just as easily as you put it move to shady or another unpopulated area.

Most casino's I see are at entrance, T1, T2, the most populated areas right now.

Some are shady, and you know bring those on

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Darklake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't that so they could add their own Shadowhaven money sink to get plat out of the game? Besides, with Live being swamped with real cash, they had to be seen as doing something. Here, there's no real cash, it's just plain and simple in-game gambling.

Perhaps as a simple play nice policy :-

1) The dealers invite the players to a group, so all the "game" spam stays out of the general area.
2) Those that don't want to see the invite spam, stick the dealer on ignore.
3) Have a chat window for /random, and minimise it.
4) Have the dealers move to the back of the Shady Swashbuckler area, out of trader's earshot.

Take some steps to sort the problem yourself, before banging the petition button.

See this is what I'm talking about. Who's petitioning? You make great sense up until point 4 where you assume what someone else is thinking.

/shrug

I like the separate, minimized window for randoms though. That's a good thought.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Darklake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) Have a chat window for /random, and minimise it.

Why should I have to go out of my way because someone else is spamming? Besides is there even a clear random filter for the chatbox or do you then move a bunch of different messages into that window?

I also don't understand the "ignore" argument. There are many situations where ignore might help, but this is the only instance in which it is the acceptable solution to many people. Other stuff that you could simply ignore would definitely result in bans.

Casinos are just preying on the stupid, like lottery is a tax on stupidity. They don't add anything else to the game and only take money from stupid people. I already see that happening often enough IRL.

[Crone]

Originally Posted by Quineloe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They don't add anything else to the game and only take money from stupid people. I already see that happening often enough IRL.

I'm glad you are applying what you think this game should be to every other single person that plays it. Because you know, we all don't have different views on what makes this game fun, right? Good job.

[Kavanah]

Originally Posted by Quineloe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should I have to go out of my way because someone else is spamming? Besides is there even a clear random filter for the chatbox or do you then move a bunch of different messages into that window?

I also don't understand the "ignore" argument. There are many situations where ignore might help, but this is the only instance in which it is the acceptable solution to many people. Other stuff that you could simply ignore would definitely result in bans.

Casinos are just preying on the stupid, like lottery is a tax on stupidity. They don't add anything else to the game and only take money from stupid people. I already see that happening often enough IRL.

What I think is even funnier is that I, as well as many of my players, can be in EC tunnel for 10 hours straight, just to have people like Quineloe come up, and after being there for 2 mins wants to tell us what can and can't be done in EC tunnel.

I'm not sorry that just because while running through EC Tunnel, hitting your "d00d SoW pleez" and "WTS banded 2pp per ac" macros that you think you are being inconvienenced by a few randoms and chat over the casino. Most people who stand there all day end up saying, "Hey you know what, I'm bored, lets roll some dice for fun."

Also I guess Tizzle was my prey when she walked away yesterday up 200pp from me. How about Len who walked away with 800pp up on me. Go tell them they are stupid, at least they can pay for their SoW d00d pleez spam.

/cheers

[Rhambuk]

So in 10 hours 2 people won? I don't know how much business you had but that doesn't sound very enticing.

My problem is less with the actual gambling casino money trade and more about the spam, I have 3 chat windows and when im in ec they usually look like say/tell, guildchat, and auction window.

having to CONSTANTLY scroll up in a window to read missed chat because 2 or 3 people are just
/rand
/rand
/rand
/rand
/rand

gets annoying very quickly, I don't like putting people on ignore that I don't know you lose out on a lot that way but I'm not going to sit there and try and read the 1 or 2 messages hidden in a wall of random spam.

I don't see why the pro casino players are getting so defensive over a few /ignores. if you sit in a group of people and start spamming Expect it, its going to happen and if YOU don't like that then YOU can move.