Discussion on 20 minute engage rule for undead bard (trak guts) when next patch comes

[Erati]

can drop Robe

[Juevento]

Maybe this is a crazy idea, but how about if you didn't spawn the mob, don't touch it.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe this is a crazy idea, but how about if you didn't spawn the mob, don't touch it.

trigger for ring war is 24 hour respawn, should keep respawning the dain IMO.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe this is a crazy idea, but how about if you didn't spawn the mob, don't touch it.

+1

I'm unfamiliar with the quest, if you turn in and it gets sniped, do you lose your progress? Is it a significant loss?

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

I'm unfamiliar with the quest, if you turn in and it gets sniped, do you lose your progress? Is it a significant loss?

You get your lute right back in the turn in. You lose nothing except your time that afternoon.

This doesn't matter though. Sniping targets should not be allowed.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

I'm unfamiliar with the quest, if you turn in and it gets sniped, do you lose your progress? Is it a significant loss?

you don't lose anything. you hand the udb an item. on hitting trade he hands it back, despawns, and trak pops.

this is good and bad. good, if you lose you don't have a penalty other than waiting for the next udb to try again. bad, unless you actually finish the bard epic you can keep spawning trak to farm the BP/sell the MQ.

Given that there is so much else to do in velious, the mob is out of the way, and that it takes a decently sized force to take down trak I wouldn't expect too much in the way of trouble here.

if any guild does decide to farm UDB trak to the detriment of bards waiting in need, then I hope the whole server joins in ruining them. it would be a total dick move.

one solution i would support is that once trak is popped (I don't know how long UDB trak stays up for) that if another guild swoops in that only the BP goes to them. let the bard have the damn guts...

[Ele]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1

I'm unfamiliar with the quest, if you turn in and it gets sniped, do you lose your progress? Is it a significant loss?

My understanding is hand in lute body UDB, get it right back, UDB aggros, kill UDB, spawns trak, kill trak, loot guts. No loss. Requires white and red scales to get the lute body first though.

If a guild wants to invest a white and red scale and time to farm UDB for guts they can. Using a white scale to not get a Bard epic though will shrink the available white scales even more so.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding is hand in lute body UDB, get it right back, UDB aggros, kill UDB, spawns trak, kill trak, loot guts. No loss. Requires white and red scales to get the lute body first though.

If a guild wants to invest a white and red scale and time to farm UDB for guts they can. Using a white scale to not get a Bard epic though will shrink the available white scales even more so.

my fear would be that a bard doing the quest to get his epic will have to buy his white scale. in order to pay for the scale he will sell his loot rights to the BP from the trak kill. he can do this as many times as he wants as long as he doesn't finish his epic; once he finishes he will no longer have the bit to hand UDB.

i.e. he can pay the cost of the scale by farming (or letting a hit team farm) the trak BPs.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my fear would be that a bard doing the quest to get his epic will have to buy his white scale. in order to pay for the scale he will sell his loot rights to the BP from the trak kill. he can do this as many times as he wants as long as he doesn't finish his epic; once he finishes he will no longer have the bit to hand UDB.

i.e. he can pay the cost of the scale by farming (or letting a hit team farm) the trak BPs.

1 UDB every 24 hours and a raid force worth of alts camped at seb IZ, more than enough bps to make 1 white scale worth it.

Or a hit team will just get a lute and farm trak themselves. There's nothing that says a bard that has his epic couldn't just get another lute and farm trak bps and sell loot rights if available. No reason to believe this won't be farmed.

First in force would let a bard bringing his own raid force to claim the target. Without any Tom foolery and spawn sniping.

As it is, there's no reason to believe that someone outside of a top raid guild will see their SSS without buying it, which was precisely why UDB was put in on live. But w/e. FTE bruh.

[Kender]

epic mq's should be banned