10x the people complaining about size of Empire than are in Empire

[AzzarTheGod]

They want daddy 'gean to sanction and dismantle the only raiding guild capable of killing any mobs.

Wheres the proof <Empire> stifles competition?

140 VS 90 in Karnors Castle.....You quit contesting after you lost 1 fight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#FACTS

[Runya]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They want daddy 'gean to sanction and dismantle the only raiding guild capable of killing any mobs.

Wheres the proof <Empire> stifles competition?

140 VS 90 in Karnors Castle.....You quit contesting after you lost 1 fight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#FACTS

That was the entire server banding vs one force with skewed numbers....you cant expect that many people to get along for the sake of fighting a pve machine on a pvp server.The only group that can get along that long is a pixel machine......half of you guys dislike eachother but pixels/blue content keeps you guys together.I think your playing the server wrong based on the population.

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by Runya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was the entire server banding vs one force with skewed numbers....you cant expect that many people to get along for the sake of fighting a pve machine on a pvp server.The only group that can get along that long is a pixel machine......half of you guys dislike eachother but pixels/blue content keeps you guys together.I think your playing the server wrong based on the population.

So you're saying theyre living in a fantasy world, in a fantasy world?
I'd agree with that haha

[El Camacho]

Originally Posted by Shjade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outsider's perspective (not interested in raiding, on either server, myself): from what I've been reading the last month or so, after screening out the bullshit (aka 99% of the content), I get the impression the foundation of the complaint is, essentially, a body monopoly. Empire is so large on such a small server that they control most of the eligible raiding bodies on the server, which makes it difficult to form raiding parties outside of Empire using the rather limited remaining 50-60 population.

Whether or not that's accurate, I can't really say. That's just how it's seemed to me from what I've seen posted.

Empire might be to large and organized to contest with now, but there are more than enough to make a comparably sized force on the rest of the server.

problem is there is a large number of players that can't get along beyond 20 or so people and end up pushing away new players, alliances, breaking up mergers, etc.

IMHO empires advantage has been the ability to manage a large group of players and keep out those that would cause problems for what they are trying to do.

[Shjade]

Originally Posted by El Camacho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Empire might be to large and organized to contest with now, but there are more than enough to make a comparably sized force on the rest of the server.

problem is there is a large number of players that can't get along beyond 20 or so people and end up pushing away new players, alliances, breaking up mergers, etc.

IMHO empires advantage has been the ability to manage a large group of players and keep out those that would cause problems for what they are trying to do.

From what I've seen of Empire's behavior/posts thus far, I'd say Empire's "advantage" is that they don't manage their large group of players; the leadership doesn't appear to care about what their members are doing much of the time.

When you don't give a shit about who they are or what they do the rest of the time, it's pretty easy to throw a bunch of bodies together. Avoids that whole "can't get along" problem by smothering it with indifference and/or ignorance (in the sense of ignoring what they're doing unless it suits you to pay attention to it).

[Lasher]

Originally Posted by Shjade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what I've seen of Empire's behavior/posts thus far, I'd say Empire's "advantage" is that they don't manage their large group of players; the leadership doesn't appear to care about what their members are doing much of the time.

When you don't give a shit about who they are or what they do the rest of the time, it's pretty easy to throw a bunch of bodies together. Avoids that whole "can't get along" problem by smothering it with indifference and/or ignorance (in the sense of ignoring what they're doing unless it suits you to pay attention to it).

We spend 90% of the time in zones with no other guild. Whats there to manage? Most of empire leaves Tmo and scum along and those that dont are just pvping on a pvp server when we happen to come across you guys. We hardly even visit kunark.

If you are trying to farm exp in a zone that empire travles through frequently dont get mad that pvp comes

[grannock]

Originally Posted by Shjade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outsider's perspective (not interested in raiding, on either server, myself): from what I've been reading the last month or so, after screening out the bullshit (aka 99% of the content), I get the impression the foundation of the complaint is, essentially, a body monopoly. Empire is so large on such a small server that they control most of the eligible raiding bodies on the server, which makes it difficult to form raiding parties outside of Empire using the rather limited remaining 50-60 population.

Whether or not that's accurate, I can't really say. That's just how it's seemed to me from what I've seen posted.

All the serious raiders want to be a guild with leadership who gets the job done and distributes loot fairly without drama? holy shit. Maybe if someone made another guild and didnt implode it from the leadership position, they could spend a few months to grow and gear up and actually contest.

[Runya]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I just don't get the complaint of people not in Empire. If you don't want to "zerg", aka field the numbers needed for most of the content, then why do you care that Empire does? There's plenty of Empire to kill during the day outside of raids. What is it you guys want exactly?

At this point every single player on the server would have to band together.If 60 people came to contest 100 of you guys would log on....Turds like you disappeared until there was something YOU could gain.Idk are you helpful to the guild? You seem like a nihilum zerg turned emp zerg loot whore(from outside looking in).When you played heartbrand in classic you were a different player than you are now.

[Malevz]

HB it's scary how much sense you've been making in your recent posts.

[magician]

they tried. (good guys) (yi(K)es) (c)