Rangers ever use range in VoS?

[Korain]

Don't they get some sweet bow discipline in Velious? It's only like a 20s duration, but a friend told me it rocks.

[wormed]

I liked PoP.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Minus PoK books, PoP wasn't too awful

Nothing about PoP was poorly implemented other than their initial flagging system. Once it was resolved to allow levels to unlock access to all the groupable zones it was perfection.

Books were great.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Korain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't they get some sweet bow discipline in Velious? It's only like a 20s duration, but a friend told me it rocks.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Disciplines

Trueshot shown as a 2 minute disc doubling bow damage (for some reason 3 sticks in my mind though).

The problem with Trueshot in old discipline world, is burning it prevents you from using Weaponshield. And as far as tactics go, Weaponshield is far more valuable to a Raid than some ranger doing mediocre Windstriker DPS.

[Kutsumo]

There has never been an expansion or patch of EQ where bow was the primary means of DPS for rangers. In most iterations after Trueshot came out, you could do more burn DPS with a bow than with melee, but that's only 2 minutes (can get up to 3ish with extended AAs) out of over an hour cooldown. That's not to say you couldn't keep shooting arrows without TS, but it was usually only ~60% of the dps of melee when not disc'd.

Headshot AA and Vinelash Cascade spell (frontal cone root with unlimited targets) made grinding XP with bow-only a thing, though.

[curtischoy]

There has never been an expansion or patch of EQ where bow was the primary means of DPS for rangers.

what? Bow DPS was insane with the AA. Maybe it was PoP or a bit later, but rangers bow was out dpsing EVERY other class, not just ranger melee. And not just with TS.

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by curtischoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what? Bow DPS was insane with the AA. Maybe it was PoP or a bit later, but rangers bow was out dpsing EVERY other class, not just ranger melee. And not just with TS.

During burns with trueshot up, YES. I even mentioned that in my post. Again, 2 minutes out of every 60. Melee has always been better without trueshot burning unless you have bad weapons or have neglected melee AAs.

[curtischoy]

Originally Posted by Curtischoy

And not just with TS.

[Kutsumo]

Proof? I only mained ranger from PoP through RoF, with a few breaks thrown in but I do not recall any times when non trueshot bow DPS beat out melee.

[DevGrousis]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet another reason PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. Rangers with bows being top end DPS (check). Baller bows (check).

PoP #1.

If you take away the Book system from the plane of Knowledge, PoP was an awesome xpac. It would be cool if in 2016, well after Velious was launched, the team here at P99 went to work on some "custom content". And i do not mean TOTALLY new stuff. I just mean a selective roll out of features, and zones that were true to EverQuests original spirit. For instance, some of the zones in PoP, making rangers ranged.. etc.