NPC Spawn Issue: Cazel - HP regen is wrong

[koros]

Disease cloud is a dot. It never stopped regen.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disease cloud is a dot. It never stopped regen.

I know I soloed him at 60. 60 Bards are claiming they could dps down

Maybe it has something to do with disease counters and once you hit a certain amount, HP regen slows/stops?

What else are those counters for?


I know I used to kill this guy for lowbies in Oasis, and I would do so in P99.

[Telin]

If you want to challenge the present rate, posting some old discussions about it would help.

These aren't classic, but from 2003 where there Would be some better spells and gear.

"Sorry to bump the somewhat old thread, but rather than starting a new one it seemed appropriate to reply again here.

On my third try I managed to solo Cazel. I would estimate his regen to be around 100 hp a _second_ (especially obvious now that target hp is updated every second). This made even chain nuking with Winter's Frost impractical. However, from my days as a monk using an adamantite bo stick, I remembered a nifty property of large mobs: Cazel's melee range is larger than my rain's radius. So I was able to stand at near max melee range and alternate Winter's Frost with Winter's Storm without hitting myself, and without being summoned (which would interrupt a spell). Once he started running away I had to burn him down with just Winter's Frost; each cast would do about 12% damage, but he'd regen about 8% between casts. I finished with near full health (spirit of the wood+replenishment+nature's recovery was enough healing) and about 20% mana."
Source: http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-2124.html

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Telin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to challenge the present rate, posting some old discussions about it would help.

These aren't classic, but from 2003 where there Would be some better spells and gear.

"Sorry to bump the somewhat old thread, but rather than starting a new one it seemed appropriate to reply again here.

On my third try I managed to solo Cazel. I would estimate his regen to be around 100 hp a _second_ (especially obvious now that target hp is updated every second). This made even chain nuking with Winter's Frost impractical. However, from my days as a monk using an adamantite bo stick, I remembered a nifty property of large mobs: Cazel's melee range is larger than my rain's radius. So I was able to stand at near max melee range and alternate Winter's Frost with Winter's Storm without hitting myself, and without being summoned (which would interrupt a spell). Once he started running away I had to burn him down with just Winter's Frost; each cast would do about 12% damage, but he'd regen about 8% between casts. I finished with near full health (spirit of the wood+replenishment+nature's recovery was enough healing) and about 20% mana."
Source: http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-2124.html

The only thing is dots ticks vs regen ticks. I can 300 dmg/tick with dots, but that seems to break even.

I very well might have used bane, pox, plague and envenomed bolt + epic. When I get bane and my 55 pet I will try again.

I know I did it, and I do not remember him being able to out regen my dots.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

200 vs 300 is a VERY different discussion than coming in and claiming it should be 7.

[ergo]

Fair enough, That was the first example I found and explained what I was seeing, but still something is not right and I am glad we are at least discussing it.

[Itoons]

Don't have proof but I believe his hp regen was 70 per sec in classic.

[Grimjaw]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then maybe the disease line of dots should stop regen, because I know I soloed him - often.

this...

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...m9820935161310

When I read about this guy, I was surprised that half the people had it easy, and half had it rough. After 3 tries before taking him down, It dawned on me why.....

If he has a high regen rate, all you need is a necro or shm to disease him. His regen stops, and DOWN HE GOES! He dropped in about 1 min on the 4th try with a 49 necro. Good luck!

(Some mentions of "Fear" disabling regen also)

[ergo]

Sweet thanks for finding it. So disease lines should stop the regen. If it isnt, then its broken. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ergo]

Confirmed, disease based dots DO NOT stop hp regen as they should. This is confirmed broken.