Bard songs having shorter duration since patch intended?

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

my totally anecdotal evidence says that bards only twisted 2 songs max until /melody because 56k just couldn't handle the power of 3 songs at once

i regularly twisted 4 on live in classic/kunark. it wasn't a matter of connection speed or other latency; it was, as it is now, just a pain to twist songs for hours on end without /melody.

the five twist i am not sure about. it isn't a skill issue though. if you can twist 4 you then can twist five...its just a different button you are pushing, its not like juggling where adding another ball makes the endeavor significantly harder each time.

the five song twist only works because of the server-side tick...i.e. if i am singing regen the entire effect of the regen is applied on the tick, regardless of how much longer the buff stays up (this is the same thing as "canny dancing"---you only need to be sitting when the server ticks to get the full sitting mana regen regardless of whether or not you are standing for the next 5.9 secs, etc.). so, in effect, if you make sure that your "drop song" is a song that only has to be on during the server tick to get its full effect (mana regen, health regen, etc.) then you are running five bard songs altogether.

to be honest, i am not sure if it worked this way in classic on live. the consensus seems to be that it did, but most folks didn't know (at least folks I knew who played bards) enough about the way songs and ticks worked to universally take advantage of it.

[nyclin]

I was joking. People seem to think that Bards were totally crippled by 56k modems and it just wasn't true.

You can do 5 songs if at least 2 are offensive e.g. snare/fear but you will occasionally have one of the offensive effects fall off
Max beneficial has and always been 4+Niv's from BOH, but the 4th will fall off sometimes

[Udabut]

Use to be able to CC 5 mobs on a bad pull, now limited to 2. Anyone know if this is going to be fixed? Basically they just took one of the major reasons away people pick bards to be in their groups.

[Murri]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was joking. People seem to think that Bards were totally crippled by 56k modems and it just wasn't true.

You can do 5 songs if at least 2 are offensive e.g. snare/fear but you will occasionally have one of the offensive effects fall off
Max beneficial has and always been 4+Niv's from BOH, but the 4th will fall off sometimes

4+Niv's was what i did back in the day.