Way to go Shadowshrek - Azure Guard

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just changing it to an alert for now, hopefully it gets the same attention without screwing everyone else.

Wow, dude. That's insanely petty. What on earth do his group members have to do with this? Like, somehow I'm now guilty of screwing you over because someone in my guild decided to steal some stuff from you, and he just happened to be in my group when he hammered out and went linkdead.

Take it up with Azure Guard officers, or submit a petition in the petition forum. Don't condemn the whole guild or whoever happened to be grouped with him, which are completely arbitrary and irrelevant factors, you idiot.

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, dude. That's insanely petty. What on earth do his group members have to do with this? Like, somehow I'm now guilty of screwing you over because someone in my guild decided to steal some stuff from you, and he just happened to be in my group when he hammered out and went linkdead.

Take it up with Azure Guard officers, or submit a petition in the petition forum. Don't condemn the whole guild or whoever happened to be grouped with him, which are completely arbitrary and irrelevant factors, you idiot.

Sorry to say but... when you choose wear a guild tag you are representing the guild as a whole. Your actions therefore reflect upon the guild you represent. If you think what he did was wrong, it's up to YOU as well to make a big deal about it to your guild masters. Anything less you are condoning that kind of behavior.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Lady Julae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry to say but... when you choose wear a guild tag you are representing the guild as a whole. Your actions therefore reflect upon the guild you represent. If you think what he did was wrong, it's up to YOU as well to make a big deal about it to your guild masters. Anything less you are condoning that kind of behavior.

This is just a red herring though; it doesn't invalidate any of the things I said about pettiness and painting whole guilds with one brush just because one member happened to do something shitty.

And for the record, when someone engages in an idiotic campaign to slander an entire guild because they've been wronged by one person, I am going to do absolutely nothing at all to help them see justice. And shame on you for suggesting I shouldn't.

[cormag]

Can you azure guard nerds give this guy his stuff back so I can use ahungry? thanks.

[Merekai]

Hi, I like how you personally called me out when all I remember doing tonight was minding my own business in east wing HS for most of the night, then heading to south wing afterwards for about 45 mins. Did I not give you VoG/C2 or something? In the future I would recommend getting in touch with one of the officers so we can figure out what is going on and how we can help. I'd be happy to help you out in game but I also don't appreciate being called out for doing nothing. As for your situation with Shrek, it'll be looked into. I was playing Mano tonight btw.

Chevey/Treehugginz

[bktroost]

Please submit whatever logs or screens or fraps or whatever you have of whatever your concern is to me or Merekai and we'll make sure that if you lost something due to criminal action, you will absolutely get it back.

[tristantio]

GMs do not have records of drop transfers, and the bag disappeared from his person when he was in Charasis.

That means one of the 5 listed people in the alert have it (or somehow it dropped and rotted with no one noticing...right).

My guess is the 10 minute delay in him hammering out was deciding who he was going to give the goods to out of your party.

Or maybe he coincidentally lost internet connection and dropped/lost the bag.

That begs the question - why tell someone you can drop transfer and zone out as soon as they get on the alt to pick up the item?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That begs the question - why tell someone you can drop transfer and zone out as soon as they get on the alt to pick up the item?

An even better question is, why on earth did these items need to be drop-transferred? Did you get a GM response about the matter already? Did you even submit a petition in the petition forum? Are you avoiding talking to GMs about this?

The whole thing seems really suspicious to me.

[Synthlol]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the 5 listed people in the alert have it (or somehow it dropped and rotted with no one noticing...right).

My guess is the 10 minute delay in him hammering out was deciding who he was going to give the goods to out of your party.

You do realize that items poof all the time while zoning, right? You realize that there are other possibilities than what you listed? Because they do, and there are. You're embarrassing yourself with your wild desperation to 'bring us to justice'.

I'm glad we have our officers to handle this matter with diligence and concern, because I'm cracking up at the idea of part of the AG core (not Shadowshrek) plotting to steal your fungi tunic. I couldn't take it seriously if I tried.

What other conspiracy theories do you have? I can always use a good laugh.

Seriously though, we didn't steal your fungi. Maybe Shadowshrek did, I won't rule that out, he is relatively new. But to think his group helped him is ludicrous. 99% chance the items poofed while he was zoning. It happened to me tonight with a pair of Invisibility Rings. It happened with my epic a week ago. You just camp out and back and the items are there again. Or they aren't, and you make a petition thread. Shit happens. The '10 minute' delay in him hammering out was the time it took for the hammer to go off. Have you ever used a Worker's Sledgemallet? Sometimes they don't proc right away. Stop acting like such a child.

[tristantio]

Originally Posted by Synthlol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize that items poof all the time while zoning, right? You realize that there are other possibilities than what you listed? Because they do, and there are. You're embarrassing yourself with your wild desperation to 'bring us to justice'.

I'm glad we have our officers to handle this matter with diligence and concern, because I'm cracking up at the idea of part of the AG core (not Shadowshrek) plotting to steal your fungi tunic. I couldn't take it seriously if I tried.

What other conspiracy theories do you have? I can always use a good laugh.

Seriously though, we didn't steal your fungi. Maybe Shadowshrek did, I won't rule that out, he is relatively new. But to think his group helped him is ludicrous. 99% chance the items poofed while he was zoning. It happened to me tonight with a pair of Invisibility Rings. It happened with my epic a week ago. You just camp out and back and the items are there again. Or they aren't, and you make a petition thread. Shit happens. The '10 minute' delay in him hammering out was the time it took for the hammer to go off. Have you ever used a Worker's Sledgemallet? Sometimes they don't proc right away. Stop acting like such a child.

You're right, I was definitely too hasty in my nerd rage to sling mud like that.

I do however doubt that it poofed (I've been playing since 2010, never had that happen, maybe I'm lucky).

To think that is more likely than greed is implausible to me.

A 10 minute delay on an OT hammer proc is also extremely unlikely (and the only reason I could see for it would be planning some way to keep the items).

Would an entire guild conspire to steal 50k of items? Absolutely not. Would 2 or 3 people if there was no risk to them (only the initial offender) - who knows.