DayBreak - Titanium Client

[Calibretto]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

[Tsalarioth]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

I honestly don't think it's taking from their player base and I'm pretty sure they don't either. There are lots of people who play on both P99 and Live. There are also a *lot* of people on Live who have no desire to play on P99, whether it be due to lack of opportunity to raid on a regular basis and top heavy nature of the server, or due to the fact that there are actually a lot of people who enjoy the comforts of modern EQ and have no desire to return to the days of corpse runs and hell levels.

I think offering a download of the Titanium client for $10 or so would be a great way for them to make some money and it wouldn't realistically take anyone with a current paid sub away from their servers. Even better would be a legitimate version of the patched client for P99.

[Calibretto]

Originally Posted by Tsalarioth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't think it's taking from their player base and I'm pretty sure they don't either. There are lots of people who play on both P99 and Live. There are also a *lot* of people on Live who have no desire to play on P99, whether it be due to lack of opportunity to raid on a regular basis and top heavy nature of the server, or due to the fact that there are actually a lot of people who enjoy the comforts of modern EQ and have no desire to return to the days of corpse runs and hell levels.

I think offering a download of the Titanium client for $10 or so would be a great way for them to make some money and it wouldn't realistically take anyone with a current paid sub away from their servers. Even better would be a legitimate version of the patched client for P99.

If this were true I doubt the release of Velious would have been pushed back. I like the $10 dollar download idea though.

[Tsalarioth]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this were true I doubt the release of Velious would have been pushed back. I like the $10 dollar download idea though.

I think that was more in a hope that current P99 players will re-sub on live servers rather than the other way around. No one on live is thinking to themselves, "OMG! Velious!? I need to quit my 105 cleric that I've taken the time to get 12k AAs on to go spend 6 months leveling a brand new character to 60 so I can raid NTOV!" especially considering they probably spent plenty of time in Velious-esque zones and raids 2 expansions ago with re-vamped EW/Kael/CC/CTOV. As someone who has played both casually and raided at different points over the past few years on live, I just don't think there's the discontent or desire to re-play old content that the average P99'r thinks there is. Most people on live just want more new content, not rehashed old content, especially after 2 relatively small expansions with a very small number of raids.

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by Tsalarioth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't think it's taking from their player base and I'm pretty sure they don't either. . .

I think offering a download of the Titanium client for $10 or so would be a great way for them to make some money and it wouldn't realistically take anyone with a current paid sub away from their servers. Even better would be a legitimate version of the patched client for P99.

There is on average 1200 players nightly on Blue. That's $18000.00 monthly on a $15.00 subscription, $216,000.00 annually. I am certain Daybreak can pay a lot of employees with that kind of income.

Like others have mentioned, they can simply buy out P99 and add it to their server list and charge a sub. Why sell the client when they can get the community?

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is on average 1200 players nightly on Blue. That's $18000.00 monthly on a $15.00 subscription, $216,000.00 annually. I am certain Daybreak can pay a lot of employees with that kind of income.

Like others have mentioned, they can simply buy out P99 and add it to their server list and charge a sub. Why sell the client when they can get the community?

There're a pair of gaping holes in your logic there, unspoken assumptions that you provide zero evidence to support. It's quite likely that DBG is very aware of just how false your conclusion is.

[DeadlyReza]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There're a pair of gaping holes in your logic there, unspoken assumptions that you provide zero evidence to support. It's quite likely that DBG is very aware of just how false your conclusion is.

Like would people still play if they had to pay. ..

[milsorgen]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is on average 1200 players nightly on Blue. That's $18000.00 monthly on a $15.00 subscription, $216,000.00 annually. I am certain Daybreak can pay a lot of employees with that kind of income.

Like others have mentioned, they can simply buy out P99 and add it to their server list and charge a sub. Why sell the client when they can get the community?

216k... that's like 4 Employees that can do real work and maybe 8 for grunt/community work.

[alcoma23]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

I agree. I would totally pay a sub fee to be able to play something like this from start. For now tho, I suggest donating what you can to the devs of P99. If, Tunare forbid, a C&D did come in from Daybreak, the donations would show them that there is a very healthy population of people who want to play EQ as close to classic as possible. Might encourage them to do something similar instead of dropping another farce of a progression server on us.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Calibretto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first time they are able to prove that p99 is taking from their potential player base (and profits) one of two things will happen.

a. C&D letter. Game over.
b. An offer is made to the people in charge of p99 and it becomes a part of daybreak at least in some capacity. (Not saying cash shop etc. just a choice on the Live server selection) and likely become subscription based.


I'd actually have 0 problem being charged a sub to play on this server if it was a fresh start.

Ya I'd pay too for a fresh start. Best thing would be the GMs wouldn't be volunteer, but paid. No chance of corruption like we've experienced with Amelinda, Derubael, ect, and much better customer service overall. Definitely would support.