Rogue Twink gear?

[Kutsumo]

Almost certain he's blue, I see him in EC auctioning stuff and we discussed how the seb dirk doesn't fit his fashionquest last night. lol

[Raszul]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Almost certain he's blue, I see him in EC auctioning stuff and we discussed how the seb dirk doesn't fit his fashionquest last night. lol

hahaha yeah, thats right :-)

ya man sorry Im not worried about max stats and stuff, I just wanna enjoy a thief gameplay, and for that I need dark armor :P

So I got a full set of Ravenscale now,using legs BP Arms and Mask, have a TBB, Potence Gaunts, froggy crown, hero and granite bracer, hp rings and hooded cloak and for weapons I was able to get epic and an EoN :-) Im at 180 strengh at all now, but with thorned Idol what Im missing right now I will be maxed yay.

ah..and ceremonial iksar chestplate as well for a bit of regen because I dont have the cash for a fungi :-( but the ikky chest isnt dark grey like someone said..on woodelf it is white green like things on a ranger woodelf looks like..

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raszul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hahaha yeah, thats right :-)

ya man sorry Im not worried about max stats and stuff, I just wanna enjoy a thief gameplay, and for that I need dark armor :P

So I got a full set of Ravenscale now,using legs BP Arms and Mask, have a TBB, Potence Gaunts, froggy crown, hero and granite bracer, hp rings and hooded cloak and for weapons I was able to get epic and an EoN :-) Im at 180 strengh at all now, but with thorned Idol what Im missing right now I will be maxed yay.

ah..and ceremonial iksar chestplate as well for a bit of regen because I dont have the cash for a fungi :-( but the ikky chest isnt dark grey like someone said..on woodelf it is white green like things on a ranger woodelf looks like..

Next step Raszul, evade... lots, especially with a warrior/monk tanking. If you're getting evade fails and still drawing aggro, turn off attack for a few moments. I don't supposed anyone is too vocal about it in the game but you're really helping the cleric/healer by not taking hits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Raszul]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next step Raszul, evade... lots, especially with a warrior/monk tanking. If you're getting evade fails and still drawing aggro, turn off attack for a few moments. I don't supposed anyone is too vocal about it in the game but you're really helping the cleric/healer by not taking hits [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohh yeah I can tell ya about! Even when I MISS the initial backstab I get the agro everytime haha...well..there must be a downside to epic on lvl 15 :-)

I use the evade macro, sometimes it works..but after the next autoattack I have the agro back anyway..even with normal hits..not backstabs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fastboy21]

if you have to pick and choose i would make your priorities the following:

1. weapon setup. ideally, if you can afford or obtain it, go with epic and EoN. There are alternatives for secondary that are much cheaper, for close to same damage output.

1.5 (optional) Haste. if you aren't using epic you will need a haste item (i.e. fbss for lvl 1).

2. strength. strength is dps. it is your most critical stat. depending on your race you will need more or less gear. shaman buffs and other str buffs (mrylokar arms are good for 45 plus) will help you get to the cap. there are a handful of relatively cheap items that will get most chars with buffs easily to cap. nome rogues might struggle a little. for the most part, straight strength items are generally cheap.

if you are grouping this is really it. in grp setting all that matters is your dps. if you sacrifice dos for anything in 99% grp setups (sometimes i will unequip EoN for a locust lure, for example) then you are failing as a rogue. if you want to solo then you want to explore other needs like hp gear, trick weapons (snare, slow, stuns, etc.), regen (i.e. fungi).

rogue gear is about as exciting as rogue class. it can be fun, but don't expect a great deal of complexity. if you want complexity to min/max then rogue is not the best class. there ARE in fact some things you can do to push your dos (weapon swapping, etc.) but compared to every other class I find rogue to be the simplest in terms of play and gear. lots of fun (dos is fun!) but not rocket science.

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by Raszul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohh yeah I can tell ya about! Even when I MISS the initial backstab I get the agro everytime haha...well..there must be a downside to epic on lvl 15 :-)

I use the evade macro, sometimes it works..but after the next autoattack I have the agro back anyway..even with normal hits..not backstabs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Useful information for you here - Potential damage is what gives you the agro, so the mob gains agro as if you landed a max backstab even if you miss! Generally with a Pally/SK tank, I don't assist or hit backstab until they've landed their first agro spell (FoL or disease cloud), then I open up full bore. With warriors, I assist after 4-5 seconds, and try to wait another 4-5 seconds for the first backstab unless my first evade is successful.

At low levels especially (sub 35ish), you'll sometimes tank just as well or better than the tank in your group if they're untwinked. This is a good opportunity to get your defensive skills up as long as you aren't causing the healer to have an aneurism (some will realize you're not less efficient to heal and let it be, some will flip out regardless).

[Raszul]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Useful information for you here - Potential damage is what gives you the agro, so the mob gains agro as if you landed a max backstab even if you miss! Generally with a Pally/SK tank, I don't assist or hit backstab until they've landed their first agro spell (FoL or disease cloud), then I open up full bore. With warriors, I assist after 4-5 seconds, and try to wait another 4-5 seconds for the first backstab unless my first evade is successful.

At low levels especially (sub 35ish), you'll sometimes tank just as well or better than the tank in your group if they're untwinked. This is a good opportunity to get your defensive skills up as long as you aren't causing the healer to have an aneurism (some will realize you're not less efficient to heal and let it be, some will flip out regardless).

Yeah that happen all the time atm, got oasis group and had more life and AC than the Warrior Tank. And yeah I wait like 5 secs before I open with autoattack on the mob, followed by a BS after another 3 4 secs. But I still get the agro..well if the backstab is high enough the mob is down to 30% anyway lol. Only the missed backstab agro makes me mad :-/