Rogue Pickpocket Skill (Looking for definitive ruling)

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good rogue doesn't pick from their groups, I'd argue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd second that. With the group's consent it's fine though. You need to get your skill to 200, for epic, before KC / Seb, because people will have a problem with it then.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd second that. With the group's consent it's fine though. You need to get your skill to 200, for epic, before KC / Seb, because people will have a problem with it then.

Don't need anywhere close to 200 to pick for rogue epics. Like 50~ skill is sufficient.

[Nubben]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good rogue has doability 1, 2, and 3 in their evade macro, one of which is pickpocketing.

A good rogue doesn't need a macro to evade.

[suppresso]

It's a rogues deity given right to pickpocket everything it can.

That said, you may make yourself less then appealing to p[people for grouping if you do

[Samoht]

Using an evade macro lowers your autoattack uptime and ultimately means lower DPS.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using an evade macro lowers your autoattack uptime and ultimately means lower DPS.

False. Getting agro ultimately means lower DPS.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. Getting agro ultimately means lower DPS.

Not false. You can still evade without a macro.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using an evade macro lowers your autoattack uptime and ultimately means lower DPS.

Also, why add potential hate to your attack? If you are not a VP rogue and you have thornstinger, you should have three weapon slots on your hotbar so you can primary thronstinger, secondary epic and swap in your EoN to secondary and secondary to primary right before backstab becomes available and then out again. Then you hide/evade. You already are adding your extra proc chance with Thornstinger (aggro) which gives you the added attack bonus and low ration-- swings per round. That's a lot of work to go through just to have a macro make you loose some of those attacks and generate even more.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, why add potential hate to your attack? If you are not a VP rogue and you have thornstinger, you should have three weapon slots on your hotbar so you can primary thronstinger, secondary epic and swap in your EoN to secondary and secondary to primary right before backstab becomes available and then out again. Then you hide/evade. You already are adding your extra proc chance with Thornstinger (aggro) which gives you the added attack bonus and low ration-- swings per round. That's a lot of work to go through just to have a macro make you loose some of those attacks and generate even more.

GDI no. Weapon swapping has been proven to lower DPS. Evade is enough to manage even a rune proc.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GDI no. Weapon swapping has been proven to lower DPS.

I read and read and I can't figure out why that's said. I've parsed and had better results with it than epic+EoN.