The problem with a "zerg" guild, and the challenge before us

[Slowride]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael basically has the hyena approach as most of their members give up after a loss or two and don't really play for PVP, they play for pixels like everyone else - that was historically speaking I don't know about the new guys.

Best just wait till Velious and a second guild will naturally develop based off excess content.

Will probably be Fresh? or Azrael? That will be the closest guild PVP come Velious while Holocaust snowballs into something unstoppable.

This is true and with no further expansions....

Holo has already won this game.. Only way to stop holo would be to go into POP at this point.

However..

If a team pvp server comes out... We will see an entire new monster... Def will be a ton of fun..

[FaithlessKR]

Every guild was not recruiting when I got back to the server a month ago. Holocaust and Fresh were recruiting, with occasional bumps by Azrael who were spilling members at an alarming rate at the time. Friends had no intention of recruiting anyone, and the curse wasn't around.

Fast forward a month, Friends is attempting to recruit a few people just for pvp (not to do mobs, not the greatest selling point for most people on the server), Azrael has lost almost their entire pvp core..however still recruiting, Fresh slowed down, The Curse is advertising heavily, and Holo raised requirements.

Holocaust is unfortunately the only guild ready for velious (granted fresh is still leveling and can get there if they continue to recruit solid members). I have quite a few friends in fresh, and have been rooting for that guild to make strides. You guys have been putting in good work, I just feel like I don't see you guys around as much in the last 2 weeks as I did when I first got back.

Honestly the best thing for this server would be for a qualified leader to step up and combine the best of the remaining guilds before Velious hits in an attempt to start contesting asap. Max will not work with lite, friends will not work with lite or max, and very few people like Elemtal or Takyn.

So the rest of the server is stuck in this limbo where the majority of the server is spread between 4 guilds (and continuing to spread between those 4 guilds) that can't co-exist in harmony with one another.

Hate to say it, but wtb Nizzar or someone similar who can lead the rest of the server effectively.

P.S. The thought of dealing with Nizzar playing for 18 hours a day at the start of velious fills me with incredible trepidation.

[Slowride]

Even if Nizzar was to return it is to late.. Holo has the gear and the numbers now.. They won the game. Nizzar broke rules and a new empire took the reigns.

The only option for contested raid targets is a PVP Teams server that does not allow x teaming. Only then will people see how great the game can be! But I am not holding my breath for that and may go try some more casual friendly games.

I am pretty stoked about uthguard.. DAOC is one game I never got to try.

[Farzo]

Daoc goog man.


edit btw didnt mean to sound so rash in my first post @ OP

[FaithlessKR]

I don't think there's a way to code a teams server where there was no way to x-team. It's an inevitability, and there's really nothing you can do about it.

[TheBiznessTZ]

I like this thread. its nothing but solid facts. @salt bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Slowride]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think there's a way to code a teams server where there was no way to x-team. It's an inevitability, and there's really nothing you can do about it.

not true see sullon zek sir.

[Ipman_Wingchun]

Zerg guilds dont just happen, they are created and encouraged.

You stop them by weeding out bad players from a guild and stopping recruiting when you have enough people to down content you want to do.

Recruiting beyond that is just denying your guild further competition in pvp.

Not all but many want Holo to be a zerg guild so no one even shows up to contest them so they can just raid and not worry about pvp.

The ones who do want to pvp are just glad there are other warm body targets taking hits for them and welcome the loots.

Holo should just own up to being a zerg because they aren't fooling anyone.

[Agatha]

i actually dislike GM invervention but this server has been blue-locked for so long, GM's should have stepped in years ago and introduced a 35 member max guild limit for kunark opening it up the last 2 months of kunark to recruit for velious.

I mean, it's either a pvp server or its not. its either an alternate server for farming dragons with skirmish pvp or not, server should be renamed dragons with a chance of pvp.

[Bazia]

agatha stop pretending to care you were in nihilum and would join holo forever ago if allowed