Pvp level limit discussion

[fred schnarf]

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those lvl 60 with VP gear just make a 20 fungi twink for crushbone. With level limit there is no chance for a group of folks with only level 60 to fight back.

I think a large enough group of non VP lvl 60 could beat the VP 60s. There are way more folks who would like to kill the people causing grief in CB. That's been my experience on the server anyways. This would be a rallying point for possible large scale lvl 60 Pvp battles in CB.

So the level limit serves only to protect the twinks who cause the grief correct?

please never say the words "I Think" Ever again, since you are stupid they mean nothing

[LostCause]

no yt if you kill a player under 10.

NEXT

[kildone]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't run around with the wrong spells up, OP... failing to prepare is preparing to fail and all that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't running around. I put up a few spells to see invis camo sow and port a guy to nk for cr.

I will do them one at a time next time.

But that dont speak to my point about how this guy or others like him are basically untouchables.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Beaufort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really dont see why they dont just remove the effects of beneficial spells from oor players. It makes no sense that they only half ass the coding for the OOR system when it is clearly being abused.

shit is classic

[Videri]

Kildone, way to go for initiating discussion; and I'm impressed with your ability to brush off the rude responses you've already received. Pras.

I, for one, like the 4-level PvP limit. A prepared, skilled, reasonably well-geared group of players actually does have a chance against a twinked character within 4 levels of them. They would have zero chance against a player 20 levels or more above them.

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But that dont speak to my point about how this guy or others like him are basically untouchables.

To beat twinks, we need to either twink our own characters (obviously not possible for a new player) or move in groups.

If you play a class that is good at fighting and killing other players (melees, shaman, necro, druid), fight back; if you play a class that is good at escaping (bard, casters, cleric, druid again), escape. But above all, learn to move with an entourage. It could even be just one other player whose class complements yours. Make friends and roll with them. Once again, the mistake is mine if I fail to do one of the above things.

Anyway. New players have to expect it to be hard. You will lose more than you win until you get geared and get good. No amount of code can change that.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Beaufort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really dont see why they dont just remove the effects of beneficial spells from oor players. It makes no sense that they only half ass the coding for the OOR system when it is clearly being abused.

You mean code it so you can only receive buffs from a character within 4 levels of you? That sounds like a great idea, actually. I would like to see that implemented. Unfortunately, the stated goals of the server seem to be replicating classic EQ, so I doubt they'll implement anything "custom" like your idea, but I wish they would. It would be much more sane.

[kildone]

Thanks Videri for your thoughtful responses. Your right about being in groups. So far the only guy I seen willing to attack a group was Blasty. We sure had a blast chasing him around unrest.

I also like the idea about beneficial spells being limit by levels the way detrimental spells are. Your also spot on with the classic comment. I did a little research and I remember now that when I played RZ in 2000 there seemed to be a level limit on Pvp.

I guess I am more interested in the why than I am trying to initiate a server change.

One thought though. From my little bit of research it appears there was no limit on the teams servers. Does anyone remember if this is true? If so has anyone heard Dev comments about this when discussing the possible future p99 teams server.?

[Humerox]

should have been here when it was +/- 8 and solb/permafrost were both FFA

+/- 4 was fought for every inch of the way

[Timelord]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they do more good. because instead of getting griefed by a lvl 20 fungi twink in crushbone, youd be getting griefed by lvl 60s in VP gear in crushbone

Right now if a 60 with VP gear wants, he can create a 20 fungi twink to slaughter in Crushbone.

That is the problem. The level 60 is a douchbag but no one knows who he is.

Now If I want to help my level 20 friend getting killed in Crushbone, I need to level a character up to 20 and twink him out with a bunch of gear(taking away from my other level 60) just to help out my buddy.

The real way to solve this problem is to level the playing field.

Let the 60 with VP gear harass the level 20s except now, someone who wants to help him can take their level 60 and come help out.

You cant stop the 60 in VP gear from being a douche, but you can enable it so that when he is a douche, he isnt protected by level brackets.

If you had a 20-60 pvp bracket, no one would have level 20 twinks or alts to grief because they would all use their 60s.

Then at least people would know what level 60 is being a dochebag to low levels because they would earn a bad reputation for doing it.

It also promotes low level players to join with people so they get pals to help protect them.

[Grimjaw]

sullon zek no limits imo. level limits are fucked up not red at all. blue server