Let's talk about natural progression here.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by harnold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOLed at this garbage

Just because they may have strayed from the path does not mean they have embraced any other principle. Their reluctance to remedy the raid scene is a perfect example. They strayed from the path there and new problems crept from the field they'd thought they cleared. The night vision need attempt is another example. They tried to implement a classic mechanic, but the hack did not function the same on all machines and so it was rolled back. I know there are plenty more examples of where they have failed to implement classic features while straying to implement non-classic ones, bit that does not mean their objectives are any different or that they are cherry picking. It just means they are human.

[FadedVision]

Ok Ayn Rand, you can take your economics arguments back to your 401 theory class. I am here to have fun and enjoy the game, not argue Milton Friedman.

I will argue with the main point that you made, that if you have the money you should be able to buy what you want. Sure, non no drop items. That is a relevant point. Non-no drop items, such as epics. Which are made to bring guilds together and form a raid atmosphere that is the jest of a fun and enjoyable experience on the game. That is why epics exist and the idea that you can get one at level 1 is an exploit. You are not entitled to an epic, you pass a test. Just as you are not entitled to drive a car, you pass a test.

I am not singling the blame out at anyone. I am just trying to be constructive that a change in the MQ structure might be good for the server. Think of me as an opinionated beta tester stating my opinion. If you want to flame me, go for it. It doesn't mean my opinion isnt that of a large majority of the players and it should not be held in consideration.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff have made decisions to protect the integrity of the game. They have embraced the well reasoned principles of simplicity and objectivity. Their design goals are to recreate the classic mechanics and they remain objective in their implementation to avoid the inevitable ferris wheel of insanity associated with feeling based decision making.

Wow what a load of white knight shit.

Get a dictionary so you can look up "integrity." Make sure it's got one of those sentence examples, so you can understand it in context.

Then drop by one of the 'summits'(coughakaareasonforSirkentoraisehistwitch channelprofile), and find out from them how Variance is a 'well reasoned principle of simplicity and objectivity.'

After you're done with that, have a read through the guild sub forum archive and provide us a few examples of 'objective' behavior towards the implementation of classic mechanics.


Free doesn't have to mean bad, and it furthermore doesn't have to mean bad attitude. A soup kitchen is free food for homeless people, it doesn't mean you can also disrespect them and then go 'hey stfu, it's free, so you can't complain.'

The reality is, bad decisions have been made and nothing is done to accommodate what the staff all knew would happen even before the server launched.

Hopefully the liveserver works out, because the variable of money will encourage Daybreak not to let the MAJORITY suffer(which constitutes all of the players who mare not happy about MQs, EPIC mob blocking and bot camping, the variance, three years of Kunark, exploits, RMTs, TMO, corpsing and every other issue we have).

[FadedVision]

BTW, that is great Swish. There is some honor among thieves.

[captnamazing]

lol. this belongs in RNF.

Your point about fear/hate respawning is obsolete. In fear, we have bards kite the whole zone so it's irrelevant.

Also, I love the logic here "if you had told me to level an alt to 52 to camp vox/naggy I would have told you to fuck off and went on Farming ToV, etc etc" -> Complains about the server being greedy for farming

I have fun here, pal. Why you gotta rage so young?

[fadetree]

rage against the nature of Man,
rain falling into the ocean,
beautiful and useless.

[w1zard]

This is why instance zones became the norm in modern MMORPGs.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

GMs please move this to rants and flames so we can dogpile this shit thread

[Swish]

No analogy fits.

The point is people should be able to do their epic free from people MQ'ing for profit imo.

Everyone hates that stance because it's become the norm for gathering tunnelquest tokens.

[FadedVision]

I am not going to argue free market solutions in an area that should not be argued. This is a game to have fun, not a dissertation on capitalism in the world. I know you won't understand that, you will probably diagnose my idea of "fun" and weather or not it impedes others "fun" but I have done this dance before and I don't care to continue this circle jerk.

My last point is this, you could not auction MQ's on live or you would be banned, you could not auc PLing on live or you would be banned, you did not have cell phones because the cell phone did not exist during Kunark(for 90% of people), and on my server we did not farm the dragons w/ 52s. Perhaps you did on your server. Every server was different. There is a gluttony of riches on this server and those who run the mobs/spawns are basically winning the argument and tearing down/shouting down different opinions. That is probably why this EQ is full of greedy people, all the normal people left.