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View Poll Results: Do you think the recent guild punishments are good for the server's health?
Yes, I think real punishment will cause guilds to be less toxic. 51 57.30%
No, I think guilds will continue to be just as toxic, while attempting to find loop holes. 29 32.58%
I think the staff is overstepping their boundaries. 9 10.11%
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:48 PM
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how about we meet you in oasis for fay pvp?
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:03 PM
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Not sure how helpful it really is to be handing out two separate and unequal punishments for the same alleged offense
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:04 PM
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lite cares about server guys

you heard it here first.
I thought he was quiting when I read the subjecting this here thread.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:10 PM
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Your TS is filled with figuring out how to bait situations like these then tailor evidence


Really SUSPICIOUS that we'd contact Sirken to come watch the pvp when we had these intentions of training you suggest

Enjoy your free CT, we will be recording in the future

If you'd like to PVP in Feerott before hand, please let us know


You got caught, the server is for better for it.

let it go
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:03 PM
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Normally a guild breaks a raiding rule like this and the guild is suspended from raiding. In this case it encourages guilds to go ahead and show up to raids they can't do or don't care about doing and train them just to cause grief.

Why doesn't a guild like FoH just go train fear every week and get banned from raiding fear?

If this ruling was really set in stone there is no reason for Azrael to not train in TD every week just to fuck with guilds going for targets they don't care about.

I'm okay with GMs getting involved but I marked option B because I think the way this instance was handled just opens the door for loop holes, petitions, meaningless raid suspensions, waste of time, etc.

It also appears this is leading to everyone capturing video and most likely submitting much more to GMs then they will want to deal with.

GMS*

Think long and hard on what you want the consequences to be. Post them on the front page. Be ready to enforce them once they are posted. Once this is done show up to 2-3 important raids a week and make sure rules are enforced only on raids you witness.

If time goes by and GMs loose their presence for a long period of time make a new post and repeat the process.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:04 PM
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Some times a close call doesn't go your way or only one side has a fraps to submit

I wouldn't say constantly training raids is going to turn out well for anyone :P

I'm glad we're putting pressure on leaders/officers to clean up their roster and punishing at the raid level now (see Lite as Novus admitting he ninja looted on a lvl 6, ya I got prof)
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:18 PM
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nirgon pissed his guild raid suspended, later fuckin nerd
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:26 PM
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Thanks for looking out for the server Azreal, have seen nothing but good things so far. pras
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:34 PM
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are you actually trying to say that suiciding faydedar with no one around to the iksar master is the same thing as training the iksar master on a raid of people who are already fighting faydedar?

is this real life?
yes, since both achieve it being poofed and there are no camps on red, it's noone's fay. but like I said. Azrael are martyrs and will happily take the punishment in order for this tactic to be ruled illegal. I wish Holo would be as graceful about assuming responsibility for their train and instructing their members to bind and train.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:43 PM
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No one told them to train. No one intentionally trained mobs. What about to that ton of mobs on Zuljin eh? We had no mobs in camp when that call was made and someone immediately Skype msged Sirken when they heard it.

You, on purpose, trained shit in TD.
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