A legitimate reason to why bards couldn't AE kite in classic like they can on P99

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) In classic, there was no strafe keybinding. You had to hold CTRL.
Any bard on P99 that has kited knows if you keyboard turn during a kite when you are 'swooping' in to land an AE, you're pretty much dead and cannot recover from it.

While I agree strafing makes PBAOE kiting a whole lot easier, I did all of my OT leveling using tap-turning, and not using strafing. So it can be done reliably, consistently, efficiently.

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) In classic, you did not have the mousewheel zoom-out. You had to press F9.

You could adjust the camera even without the mouse. I believe the default keybinds are Insert/Delete to zoom the camera forward/backwards from the 2nd F9 (behind the back) and CTRL+page up/page down move the camera vertically up from/down into the ground, so no mouse wheel is necessary, its just easier. I never manipulate the camera by zooming out of first person, I always just head to 2nd F9 and then manipulate from there, as I did on Live (playing Kunark-OoW so not sure where along that time line I picked up my preferred camera angle).

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I challenge bards to try and AE kite 35+ without using their scrollwheel on their mouse and take a video of it. I don't think you will be able to do it.

I already said I did it that way, but if you'd like additional proof I can make up a fresh FRAPs for you.

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then, even if you do it perfectly mechanically you still have the technical issues of being able to see the NPCs.
You'd have to be able to see the NPCs, and in classic you are not able to see the NPCs you are kiting unless you physically turn your character in first person, and have to guess where they are otherwise.

No you don't. Using tap-turning and my camera angle, I always kept the pack at JUST off screen on whichever direction kiting (so if I was turning clockwise the mobs would be just off the right side of my screen, left if running counter-clockwise). I'd use the dot messages to know if I hit the pack, and if I kept my tapping consistent (you get used to it, like a human metronome), the pack was always there for the next DoT song completion to affect 70+% of the pack.

Here's my explanation on pbaoe bard kiting from 2011: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...09&postcount=4

[indiscriminate_hater]

key tapped from levels 2 to 55

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

key tapped from levels 2 to 55

Well I never made it to 55 sad to say, but Tapping was the only way I knew how to do it back then. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I bet I was not alone.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Also, swarm kiting was more popular because it was a whole lot safer

[khanable]

wtb trilogy client

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtb trilogy client

This x1000.

[Llaile]

That first post is almost offensive. I always used a fixed floating f9 camera position and just tapped d over and over as I kited.

[Tewaz]

I just ran in a circle backwards on live.

[iruinedyourday]

Uh what?! Lol mouse wheel worked in 99 also strafe. This is all wrong.

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh what?! Lol mouse wheel worked in 99 also strafe. This is all wrong.

^ Mouse wheel and strafe both worked on live in 99. You got this all wrong Secrets.