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Old 01-07-2015, 08:12 PM
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Loraen, didn't you do an AC parse on your warrior whose name I have no idea how to spell? Aside from that, I don't remember seeing any legit parses. I definitely havent seen on since the AC change i heard about a few months ago.

If any clerics out there wanna heal my warrior for extended periods while he tanks shit at various AC values I'd be willing to do that and parse. Would probably take an hour or two to do it right though.
I did. Haynar/Rogean responded that they had implemented a new system, but that many of the mobs were using values tuned with the old system (why they couldn't replace those values with a default idk). I also did measure the Spiroc Lord last summer:

Average Hit vs Sakuragi: 285
Average Hit vs Bob/Argh: 265

Sakuragi is an iksar with resist gear on, bob and argh are cobalt warriors. Maybe +50 item ac? You can do your math from there.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:01 AM
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Didn't the AC system get changed up last year? IIRC it was more of a rebalance for lower levels though.

I remember before the patch I mention I levelled a ranger into 20s on red wearing just patchwork armour as he was mitigating damage well enough on dark blues to not require any more AC. Since then AC seems more important on lower levels, but I've not noticed what difference the change makes (if any) higher up.

How much AC you need will vary depending on where/what you are hunting. I suppose you can run gamparse and look at your hit distribution on what you are fighting and make your decision on if you have sufficient AC (or if adding/removing AC makes any difference) based on that.

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Old 01-07-2015, 10:03 AM
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Loke I'd be open to it on beta, since it sounds like a donals bp would be helpful, don't have one tho on live.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:17 PM
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:43 PM
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I miss you gents, but I can't play EQ for more than 20 minutes without getting bored. Even Velious beta just feels like content that I've done a million times before. So, my free time is mostly going to WoW/HS.

I had a good time spending a day making those Velious videos though. Maybe I'll try to do something along those lines.
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:15 AM
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This is almost exactly what I did, except rather than measuring the proportion of tank deaths I measured the maximum damage over 100 parses of 30 attacks.

The 0.75 interval hits (25% max hits) vs 0.60 interval hits (40% max hits) come from parses of Sakuragi (in resist gear), Bobbarker, and Argh against the Spiroc Lord.
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:47 AM
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So can we take away that for AC totals below soft cap without a MIT disc, 1AC is worth 6 to 8 HP? And any AC over soft cap is worth 4HP (again assuming no disc)?
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:11 AM
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General rule of tanking in this era.

AC > all. That should simplify things.

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Old 01-10-2015, 03:17 AM
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General rule of tanking in this era.

AC > all. That should simplify things.

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This is good enough information for me.
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